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Rob Walling

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4343 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

It doesn't really matter if it's profitable.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

Let's say I sell for a hundred million at that point.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

Does it matter that it was profitable?

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

No, because I'm making the money on the exit.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

And so therefore, the profitability doesn't matter because you are truly looking at the future and what you can get for the business down the line.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

And even if let's say, well, so you're only looking to sell it, let's say you grew it to 20 million ARR and it truly is net negative churn 10%, you could cut back on staff.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

And at scale, a SaaS company can have growth

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

gross margins of 80% to 90% and net margins of, let's say, 30% to 50%.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

And for easy math, let's just say you can get that $20 million SaaS company to a 50% net margin.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

You are throwing off $10 million a year at that point in free cash flow.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

And that's a number that matters.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

Not the, oh, I'm doing $2 million a year and I'm going to try to crank out $750,000 in profit this year, $1 million a year.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

That sounds like a lot to us.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

It just doesn't move the needle of these acquirers.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

And so, no, they don't care about cash flow in the short term.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

It just doesn't really matter nearly as much as the fundamentals of the business and how they see they can grow it and growth in momentum.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

and churn or retention.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

Those are just opposite sides of the same coin.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

Those are the things that are really intriguing because when you look, what am I going to do with this business in the next three to five years, which is how private equity thinks about it and probably how strategics think about it as well.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

That's what matters.