Rob Walling

Over the next few years, if it continues to exponentially or starts to exponentially appreciate in value, then I can imagine the impact on all of us is going to be a lot more significant. So what I'm saying is that part of this relies on how fast the underlying AI models advance over the next few years. So thanks for that question, Aboma. Hope it was helpful. My next question is from Eddie Vink.

Over the next few years, if it continues to exponentially or starts to exponentially appreciate in value, then I can imagine the impact on all of us is going to be a lot more significant. So what I'm saying is that part of this relies on how fast the underlying AI models advance over the next few years. So thanks for that question, Aboma. Hope it was helpful. My next question is from Eddie Vink.

And Eddie asks, not my product, but Notion is launching Notion Sites. So this again is seven months ago. Do you think this is a threat for Notion Site Builder products or is it an opportunity? 100%, it's a threat. Anytime a big player, this is platform risk, right? Anytime...

And Eddie asks, not my product, but Notion is launching Notion Sites. So this again is seven months ago. Do you think this is a threat for Notion Site Builder products or is it an opportunity? 100%, it's a threat. Anytime a big player, this is platform risk, right? Anytime...

a big player launches a feature that a bunch of step one business builders have built, right, following the stair-step method, it's detrimental, inevitably. Even if they build kind of a shitty version of it that is feature-limited, that doesn't do anywhere near, I have a thing, but my thing is better, right?

a big player launches a feature that a bunch of step one business builders have built, right, following the stair-step method, it's detrimental, inevitably. Even if they build kind of a shitty version of it that is feature-limited, that doesn't do anywhere near, I have a thing, but my thing is better, right?

My thing has five times the number of features, or my thing is way easier to use, or look, it does all this other stuff for you. What happens is a bunch of Notion people who don't want to add another product to their chain, they don't want to add another integration, they don't want to add another $20, $30, $40 subscription, they just put up with it.

My thing has five times the number of features, or my thing is way easier to use, or look, it does all this other stuff for you. What happens is a bunch of Notion people who don't want to add another product to their chain, they don't want to add another integration, they don't want to add another $20, $30, $40 subscription, they just put up with it.

And if it's good enough, it will absolutely negatively impact Notion site builder products. Now, are there specialized tool if you're a super specific Notion site builder for some vertical niche and you are truly not competing with Notion sites that, you know, I'm trying to think of an example. You're for a tight vertical.

And if it's good enough, it will absolutely negatively impact Notion site builder products. Now, are there specialized tool if you're a super specific Notion site builder for some vertical niche and you are truly not competing with Notion sites that, you know, I'm trying to think of an example. You're for a tight vertical.

You're for Notion for like a gym, some martial arts dojos or Notion sites for software teams doing agile development. Assuming that Notion Sites, capital N, capital S, the product that they put out isn't able to do the things. And you are positioned correctly of like, hey, thinking of using Notion Sites? Well, it doesn't work for XYZ. And we do. Then do I think you'll still be okay?

You're for Notion for like a gym, some martial arts dojos or Notion sites for software teams doing agile development. Assuming that Notion Sites, capital N, capital S, the product that they put out isn't able to do the things. And you are positioned correctly of like, hey, thinking of using Notion Sites? Well, it doesn't work for XYZ. And we do. Then do I think you'll still be okay?

Yeah, probably. But I do think that in general, platform risk is tough. And I've faced it myself. and relying on, well, multiple platforms over the years, especially Google was always one that really hit me hard. And this isn't a reason not to build step one businesses or businesses that are in these app marketplaces because these are great platforms Little businesses that, can I say little?

Yeah, probably. But I do think that in general, platform risk is tough. And I've faced it myself. and relying on, well, multiple platforms over the years, especially Google was always one that really hit me hard. And this isn't a reason not to build step one businesses or businesses that are in these app marketplaces because these are great platforms Little businesses that, can I say little?

I mean, some of them, you know, you can get to 5K a month. Some you can get to 40, 50K a month. These can be great. They can be life-changing. But would I build and would I stake my, let's say my family's financial well-being on something with a lot of platform risk? I would not. I would not expect my app to exist 10 years from now if I was heavily, heavily reliant and built on a platform.

I mean, some of them, you know, you can get to 5K a month. Some you can get to 40, 50K a month. These can be great. They can be life-changing. But would I build and would I stake my, let's say my family's financial well-being on something with a lot of platform risk? I would not. I would not expect my app to exist 10 years from now if I was heavily, heavily reliant and built on a platform.

And I recorded a podcast episode just three or four months ago back in October. It's episode 735, the eight levels of SaaS platform risk. And if you are wondering... why platform risk is not just binary like a lot of people think, but that there are actually many, many levels and there are three different elements of platform risk and then eight different levels.

And I recorded a podcast episode just three or four months ago back in October. It's episode 735, the eight levels of SaaS platform risk. And if you are wondering... why platform risk is not just binary like a lot of people think, but that there are actually many, many levels and there are three different elements of platform risk and then eight different levels.

You got to go listen to the episode to hear it. It was my favorite episode I recorded last year. That episode will 100% categorize this thought around Notion launching their own version of sites. So is it a death knell for all third-party Notion site builder products? No. Will it negatively impact A lot of them? Potentially most of them? Yeah, I do think so, unfortunately.

You got to go listen to the episode to hear it. It was my favorite episode I recorded last year. That episode will 100% categorize this thought around Notion launching their own version of sites. So is it a death knell for all third-party Notion site builder products? No. Will it negatively impact A lot of them? Potentially most of them? Yeah, I do think so, unfortunately.