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Rob Wiblin

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2780 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

And that worked great.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

It made a big difference until it also started to hit diminishing returns.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

So then they naturally moved on to throwing compute at inference scaling and reinforcement learning for reasoning, as I was just describing.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

Each individual thing, as they scale it up 10, 100, 1,000, 10,000-fold, it always kind of returns Peter out.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

But so long as there's always something else to move on to, then the big picture trend will remain one of steady improvement like we've seen before.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

I'm sure their research teams are feverishly working to figure out other ways to efficiently convert computer chips into smarter and more useful and more capable AI models.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

That's the entire job of their research.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

Will they succeed again for, you know, the fourth or fifth time?

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

Or have they kind of run out of tricks for now where we might have a couple of years to wait?

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

That is the fundamental unknown that everyone both inside and outside the companies is more or less forced to repeatedly speculate about until they either do or they don't.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

So those were some technical updates, new technical results.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

But there are a lot of worries that people have always had that also became more salient in the second half of 2025.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

Here are a couple that stand out to me.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

First, there was an ever-growing gap over that time between what AI models seemed like they could do in demos and how much they were actually upending most workplaces and the world around us and our personal lives.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

This peculiar situation was summed up by the podcaster Dworkesh Patel as AI models keep getting more impressive at the rate the short timelines people predict, but more useful at the rate that long timelines people predict.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

And I think this growing gap basically made analysts, made people begin to just trust their own judgment about how much something that seemed really impressive on the screen when they were talking to it, how much that could actually make a difference and increase productivity in real world situations.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

One reason for that failure to transfer to real applications could be the second point.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

AIs just clearly do not learn in the same way that humans do.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

Whatever our weaknesses, humans really do quickly get a lot better at stuff with just a couple of samples, basically.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

And we also just build up and accumulate new knowledge and new skills over time.