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The full audio version of the book also has nine appendices, which we've left out here because they would bring the length of the whole thing up to too long.

It just would be too much to stick in in one MP3.

Those appendices are, in order, the meaning of making a difference, evidence-based advice on how to be more successful in any job – I really like that one – for biases to avoid in career decisions, how to make tough career decisions, is it ever okay to take a harmful job in order to do more good, college advice, additional resources, career review summaries, and finally, problem profile summaries.

If you want to hear one of those appendices or maybe multiple of them, you can find the full audiobook, all of it, either on Audible or as a podcast by searching for 80,000 Hours Career Guide or wherever you get podcasts.

And of course, everything that you've heard so far and all of those appendices are also available as written articles on our website or as a physical book that you can buy on Amazon.

All right, we'll be back before too long with another more regular episode.

And until then, stay happy and healthy.

Hi listeners, this is the 80,000 Hours podcast, where we have unusually in-depth conversations about the world's most pressing problems, what you can do to solve them, and how a bit of gossip can save a life.

I'm Rob Woodland, head of research at 80,000 Hours.

Most of us have at some point read about a randomized trial showing that some product or service really helps people out.

Maybe exercise programs for mental health or free vapes in order to help people quit smoking or electric cook stoves to reduce indoor air pollution and premature death.

Sometimes those studies suggest the intervention is incredibly cost effective, offering huge benefits relative to their cost.

And other times they might look too expensive to be a high priority.

But either way, we look at a summary of the study, think, huh, that's cool, and close our browser tab and never to think about it again.

I mean, what are you going to do?

Start an electric cookstove business?

Well, today's guest, Varsha Vinugopal, decided to quit her job, roll up her sleeves, and do the equivalent of starting an electric cookstove business.

Except it isn't air pollution she's been trying to fix, it's young children going unvaccinated, just because their parents didn't make it a top priority to get them back to the doctor's office on time.

We talk about a lot of big, high-level ideas in this show, and of course I totally love that stuff.

But none of those ideas matter if nobody figures out how to convert them into something that someone can actually do.