Rob Wiblin

So that took a lot of energy.

And then I think with people I was managing, I have always struggled and in this case still struggled with like perfectionism in management.

So I have this long history of like trying to get people to like serve as like writers who like write up my ideas and it never works for me because like they don't do it just the way I want it.

And I'm myself a pretty like fast writer.

And so like...

Working with a writer as their editor and like getting their writing output to be something I'm satisfied with often ends up taking more time than like doing it myself.

And I found the same happened to some extent with grantmakers where at one point we had a number of people sort of spent part of their time working on the benchmarks RFP.

And I think it's possible that I would have just moved through the grants faster if it were just me working on it, which is a bit tough.

I think this is a weakness or challenge a lot of new managers go through.

And I was sort of going through that at the same time as feeling like the feedback and engagement I got from above me was much less than it was before.

And I had to like...

sort of, like, prove this new way of doing things and, like, felt... Yeah, like, I thought and still think that there was, like, a lot to the arguments I was making, but also, like, I didn't... It was not a wild success when I, like, took a swing at it, like, by myself, so... So September last year, you decided to step away and just take some time away from work, I guess after eight years of working very hard full-time.

Yeah.

It was a mix of things.

I...

Just did a lot of like life stuff.

Like, I don't know, I just invested more in like, like I found a new group house to move into or like started a new group house.

So that was cool.

Did more just like trying to take care of myself.

I started an exercise habit off that exercise habit now again.