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Rob Wiblin

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80,000 Hours Podcast
I Know How to Build Safe Superintelligence | Yoshua Bengio, the most-cited AI researcher

Whereas your models, they'll be primarily oriented towards figuring out what is true, how does the word work, and then they would learn to understand what people might say as a side effect of that incidentally.

80,000 Hours Podcast
I Know How to Build Safe Superintelligence | Yoshua Bengio, the most-cited AI researcher

Is that definitely true?

80,000 Hours Podcast
I Know How to Build Safe Superintelligence | Yoshua Bengio, the most-cited AI researcher

Because it seems like they don't buy into conspiracy theories that much currently.

80,000 Hours Podcast
I Know How to Build Safe Superintelligence | Yoshua Bengio, the most-cited AI researcher

They don't say that the world is flat just because many people, I don't know.

80,000 Hours Podcast
I Know How to Build Safe Superintelligence | Yoshua Bengio, the most-cited AI researcher

I feel like the discussion about this proposal last year got, I think, more focused on the mathematical, theoretical guarantees, discussion of the safety guarantee side.

80,000 Hours Podcast
I Know How to Build Safe Superintelligence | Yoshua Bengio, the most-cited AI researcher

And it feels like you're moving, and it seems like I feel like probably we should move towards a scrappy 80-20.

80,000 Hours Podcast
I Know How to Build Safe Superintelligence | Yoshua Bengio, the most-cited AI researcher

This is going to probably be safer.

80,000 Hours Podcast
I Know How to Build Safe Superintelligence | Yoshua Bengio, the most-cited AI researcher

We have good reasons to think it's better.

80,000 Hours Podcast
I Know How to Build Safe Superintelligence | Yoshua Bengio, the most-cited AI researcher

Let's just throw something out and see how it goes and work from there, iterate from there.

80,000 Hours Podcast
I Know How to Build Safe Superintelligence | Yoshua Bengio, the most-cited AI researcher

Yeah, you agree?

80,000 Hours Podcast
I Know How to Build Safe Superintelligence | Yoshua Bengio, the most-cited AI researcher

I think for many people who are less into AI or computer science, a concern that might immediately jump out at them about this entire proposal is the idea of we're going to build a database of things that we think are verified facts that are ground truth that we're going to be aiming at.

80,000 Hours Podcast
I Know How to Build Safe Superintelligence | Yoshua Bengio, the most-cited AI researcher

It's the kind of thing I feel would give people who are trained in the humanities a bit of a heart attack, the idea that we have some corpus of things that we're absolutely sure are true.

80,000 Hours Podcast
I Know How to Build Safe Superintelligence | Yoshua Bengio, the most-cited AI researcher

In some philosophies, there's nothing that we're really confident about, or at least in the areas that we're most interested in, things seem highly contested and uncertain.

80,000 Hours Podcast
I Know How to Build Safe Superintelligence | Yoshua Bengio, the most-cited AI researcher

Is that a big problem for the proposal, or is close enough is good enough?

80,000 Hours Podcast
I Know How to Build Safe Superintelligence | Yoshua Bengio, the most-cited AI researcher

If we mostly put in things that we're mostly confident about, then it approximates it and it can see through any errors in there, as long as it's not massively systematically biased in what you've put in as verified.

80,000 Hours Podcast
I Know How to Build Safe Superintelligence | Yoshua Bengio, the most-cited AI researcher

This is something I'm very sure about.

80,000 Hours Podcast
I Know How to Build Safe Superintelligence | Yoshua Bengio, the most-cited AI researcher

So could you train a scientist AI of this type with no verified claims in the database?

80,000 Hours Podcast
I Know How to Build Safe Superintelligence | Yoshua Bengio, the most-cited AI researcher

No.

80,000 Hours Podcast
I Know How to Build Safe Superintelligence | Yoshua Bengio, the most-cited AI researcher

You can't.

80,000 Hours Podcast
I Know How to Build Safe Superintelligence | Yoshua Bengio, the most-cited AI researcher

It has to have that.