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Rob Wiblin

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2780 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

But I think what we can contribute now would be things that just inherently take a long lead time to set up.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

So that might include physical infrastructure, like the bioinfrastructure that my colleague Andrew is working on building out.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

It might also include just social consensus.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I think it takes some amount of time for an idea to be socialized in society, to have it as an accessible...

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

concept that maybe we should try and create some sort of treaty between the US and China to allow AI to progress somewhat slower than it might naturally and use a bunch of AI compute to solve all these problems.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I think that kind of thing takes years to become something

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

that's in people's toolkit in the water such that they actually think to have the AIs like go down that path and like figure out the details of that.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Yeah.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

So in terms of other organizations, I think it would be especially great for government entities to be thinking about adopting AI.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I know that there's just a number of random little types of red tape that make it harder for governments to adopt AIs than for anyone in industry to adopt AIs.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And I think we might end up in a situation where the regulatees, the industry people have fast cars and the regulators have horses and buggies because of this differential adoption gap.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And I think just more broadly,

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

If your company is not already going maximally hard on adopting AI for your personal use case, and you work on defenses, AI safety, moral philosophy, all these good things, it's probably worth having a team that's just kind of on the lookout for how could you sort of adopt AI as soon as it becomes actually useful for you.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Yeah.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

So I think that...

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I had been at OpenPhil for more than six years before I made my first grant.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I was involved in some grant-making conversations earlier, but the first grant I actually led on was somewhere in mid or late 2023, and I had joined OpenPhil in 2016.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

So it was like kind of interesting, like my work at OpenPhil, in some sense, if you kind of if you just took the outside view and said, you know, this is a philanthropy that's giving away money.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

My work there was like very strange because it was kind of thinking about these heady topics and then like writing these like long reports that I published on Less Wrong about them.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And I always felt a little like, oh, maybe I should dip into grant making because that is like our core product in some sense.