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Rob Wiblin

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2780 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And instead, what I had a path to do was to stand up this thing, which I tried to do, but it just felt a bit tough going.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Yeah, I felt a bit on my own.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And I'm not a very entrepreneurial person, I think.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Or I'm ambitious in some ways, but I just really have a high need for constantly talking to other people.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And I tried to achieve that sense of team by like hiring people under me to help me with this vision.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

But I think I was not very good at hiring and management.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Partly it was because this vision was like pretty nebulous.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And I think I like...

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

probably needed to spend more cycles working out the kinks in it by myself and really solidifying what it is and what's the realistic version of doing an understanding-oriented technical AI safety program.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

So it was very hard to hire because you kind of had to hire for someone who really resonated with that off the bat, even though it wasn't a very well-defined thing.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

So that took a lot of energy.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And then I think with people I was managing, I have always struggled and in this case still struggled with like perfectionism in management.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

So I have this long history of like trying to get people to like serve as like writers who like write up my ideas and it never works for me because like they don't do it just the way I want it.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And I'm myself a pretty like fast writer.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And so like...

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Working with a writer as their editor and like getting their writing output to be something I'm satisfied with often ends up taking more time than like doing it myself.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And I found the same happened to some extent with grantmakers where at one point we had a number of people sort of spent part of their time working on the benchmarks RFP.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And I think it's possible that I would have just moved through the grants faster if it were just me working on it, which is a bit tough.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I think this is a weakness or challenge a lot of new managers go through.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And I was sort of going through that at the same time as feeling like the feedback and engagement I got from above me was much less than it was before.