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Rob Wiblin

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80,000 Hours Podcast
AI designs genomes from scratch & outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR

And I guess it's going to be potentially competing with quite a lot of people and quite a lot of compute that is arrayed against it.

80,000 Hours Podcast
AI designs genomes from scratch & outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR

We might also have all kinds of different control measures that are constraining the amount of compute that it can access, that mean that it can't work for very long on something before it's being detected.

80,000 Hours Podcast
AI designs genomes from scratch & outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR

So it doesn't have as long a leash, potentially.

80,000 Hours Podcast
AI designs genomes from scratch & outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR

It doesn't have as access to unlimited resources to try to do these things.

80,000 Hours Podcast
AI designs genomes from scratch & outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR

And so each...

80,000 Hours Podcast
AI designs genomes from scratch & outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR

Count a measure that you put in place, each extra bit of resilience to make it harder to make new diseases, to try to catch things before they get synthesized, to try to give us more options for tackling a disease once it's released.

80,000 Hours Podcast
AI designs genomes from scratch & outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR

Do make it just a less promising project for the AI to engage in at all and maybe makes it not as interested in going rogue in the first place because it doesn't rate its chances of success.

80,000 Hours Podcast
AI designs genomes from scratch & outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR

So I would say it's possible.

80,000 Hours Podcast
AI designs genomes from scratch & outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR

It is possible that it's overdetermined and that all of this stuff will turn out to have been futile in this project.

80,000 Hours Podcast
AI designs genomes from scratch & outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR

But it also could turn out that actually it's extremely relevant and we don't get a super intelligence explosion that moves things out of our hands.

80,000 Hours Podcast
AI designs genomes from scratch & outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR

And this will actually make the difference.

80,000 Hours Podcast
AI designs genomes from scratch & outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR

So I want to quickly survey what sort of AI biology tools there are that now kind of work and which ones are on the horizon.

80,000 Hours Podcast
AI designs genomes from scratch & outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR

So most people will know about AlphaFold, which is this thing that goes from the genetic sequence to understanding the shape of the resulting protein.

80,000 Hours Podcast
AI designs genomes from scratch & outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR

And that is like very mature technology now.

80,000 Hours Podcast
AI designs genomes from scratch & outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR

We've also got ESM2, which can modify proteins.

80,000 Hours Podcast
AI designs genomes from scratch & outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR

So the sequence is different, the amino acid sequence is different, but it's like functionally equivalent.

80,000 Hours Podcast
AI designs genomes from scratch & outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR

then one one that is emerging is like beginning beginning to be useful but still has some way to go is like i think protein and mpnn and rf diffusion uh from the baker lab yes yeah where basically you can propose a shape or a kind of target binding that you want a function that you want a protein to serve in terms of a shape and you can get a sequence that um often works yeah an amino acid sequence or a dna sequence that will produce the the protein that you want i think

80,000 Hours Podcast
AI designs genomes from scratch & outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR

For some functions, like simple stable structures, that does basically work.

80,000 Hours Podcast
AI designs genomes from scratch & outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR

And for enzymes, for catalytic stuff, for, I guess, like more proteins that need to move, it's less so, or it's more touch and go.

80,000 Hours Podcast
AI designs genomes from scratch & outperforms virologists at lab work. What could go wrong? | Dr Richard Moulange, CLTR

We're getting there.