Rob

Oh, yeah. Malema was head of the ANC Youth League. Zuma was head of the ANC. They've each got their own political party.

So they became different factions. Different factions. Knew or joined a different group? No. Julius Malema left 15 years ago and set up the EFF. Jacob Zuma stepped down as president and then about a year and a half ago founded MK and got 15% of the country. He's the real threat, Zuma. But he's 80-something.

So they became different factions. Different factions. Knew or joined a different group? No. Julius Malema left 15 years ago and set up the EFF. Jacob Zuma stepped down as president and then about a year and a half ago founded MK and got 15% of the country. He's the real threat, Zuma. But he's 80-something.

So Jacob Zuma allowed everybody else to steal under his watch. This time around, if he gets into power, he will take the expropriation without compensation law and he will implement it on day one. He's made it very clear. And so Cyril Ramaphosa is scared of Zuma and scared of Malema. But is he scared enough to go back to his party and say, we need to change. We need to be more pro-West.

So Jacob Zuma allowed everybody else to steal under his watch. This time around, if he gets into power, he will take the expropriation without compensation law and he will implement it on day one. He's made it very clear. And so Cyril Ramaphosa is scared of Zuma and scared of Malema. But is he scared enough to go back to his party and say, we need to change. We need to be more pro-West.

We need to not be anti-Semitic, not be anti-American. We need to cut costs. We need to focus on free markets. Does he have that courage? I don't think he does.

We need to not be anti-Semitic, not be anti-American. We need to cut costs. We need to focus on free markets. Does he have that courage? I don't think he does.

No. He says nothing. Very few South African corporates stand up and say anything. I'm the only South African businessman... You can even type in prominent South African businessman standing against the ANC. No one will come up. I'm the only guy. Bob Vandrill. I've had more death threats than any non-politician in South Africa.

No. He says nothing. Very few South African corporates stand up and say anything. I'm the only South African businessman... You can even type in prominent South African businessman standing against the ANC. No one will come up. I'm the only guy. Bob Vandrill. I've had more death threats than any non-politician in South Africa.

He's a Dutchman. He lives in Amsterdam. He's not even South African. Do you know Alan Pollinger? He did. Alan Pollinger did. Michelle LaRue did. Gareth Ackerman, and Neil Froneman. Four names. I can't even get to a fifth. Who have said things. Who've stood up and talked. Alan Pullinger's resigned. How influential is Alan Pullinger? Great guy, but not anymore. He was running a bank.

He's a Dutchman. He lives in Amsterdam. He's not even South African. Do you know Alan Pollinger? He did. Alan Pollinger did. Michelle LaRue did. Gareth Ackerman, and Neil Froneman. Four names. I can't even get to a fifth. Who have said things. Who've stood up and talked. Alan Pullinger's resigned. How influential is Alan Pullinger? Great guy, but not anymore. He was running a bank.

I'm here. There's a man called Ernst Rutz who appeared on Tucker's show and Ben Shapiro's show. He's an Afrikaner. There are people from civic society. There are people from media. There are people from law who have been journalists, who have been very, very, very brave. But when it comes to the business community, the business community are the cowards, colluders, or captured. Three Cs.

I'm here. There's a man called Ernst Rutz who appeared on Tucker's show and Ben Shapiro's show. He's an Afrikaner. There are people from civic society. There are people from media. There are people from law who have been journalists, who have been very, very, very brave. But when it comes to the business community, the business community are the cowards, colluders, or captured. Three Cs.

Cowards, colluders are captured. Well, they've been captured by the state.

Cowards, colluders are captured. Well, they've been captured by the state.

Yes, I do. Well, maybe it's a form of, you know, my father said to me when I began accidentally, I made a speech that went viral, and I was thrown into this maelstrom of political activism or capitalist activism. And I would have given up early on. I got attacked. I got cut off. People wouldn't take my calls. I was threatened.

Yes, I do. Well, maybe it's a form of, you know, my father said to me when I began accidentally, I made a speech that went viral, and I was thrown into this maelstrom of political activism or capitalist activism. And I would have given up early on. I got attacked. I got cut off. People wouldn't take my calls. I was threatened.

If my wife and father hadn't said the same thing to me, I would have given up. And they said, my father said, Rob, I've never been more proud of you for doing and saying what other people can't afford to do and say. And there's a poem called The Man in the Glass. And it's about you can fool everyone but the man in the glass, yourself. And everything in life for me has come, I felt easy.

If my wife and father hadn't said the same thing to me, I would have given up. And they said, my father said, Rob, I've never been more proud of you for doing and saying what other people can't afford to do and say. And there's a poem called The Man in the Glass. And it's about you can fool everyone but the man in the glass, yourself. And everything in life for me has come, I felt easy.

Born wealthy, had every opportunity, went to Harvard Business School, got the jobs I wanted, worked for Rupert Murlock. You know, just things came. I mean, I made an effort, but they came easy. This is the first time in my life I'm doing something I don't need to do at great financial cost, at great personal risk, where my wife and kids are worried, are scared. My friends are scared.