Rob

Yeah, no, same thing.

Same, yeah.

People cheer each other on, but it is a very individualized culture in America where you're rewarded for pushing to the limit of what you can do as an individual, I think because it props up this project of...

of individualism, which, which really, it's very, I think it's detrimental ultimately, but yeah, I think there's a balance to strike.

It's like, this would be the biggest podcast in New Zealand, 10 years.

That's funny.

That's a funny way to realize.

Well, similarly, when I came to New York in 07,

I started, how I adapted, I think so quickly is that I was constantly being, it was being highlighted how I was saying words differently.

You know, I would talk about my runners instead of my sneakers.

I would talk about the expiry date instead of the expiration date.

Anytime I said a thing that people, it would flag people, people would, it would hit their ear funny and they would, um,

tease me for it.

And I just wanted to fit in and not be teased.

So I, I just adapted and I stopped, you know, I stopped saying sorry.

And I stopped, I stopped saying all of these things that would kind of get a, get a laugh.

Yeah.

And I know it's a good natured thing when it would be brought up, but I just, I just want to like,

fit in and be left alone.

And the way, and the accent, like that long vowels way.