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And they thought it was more investable than the others did.

So the whole thing with the New York Times is they were trying to corner him.

But he was making a great point about the strategy.

We're going to get oil companies to invest us to the benefit of the people.

The oil companies will then pay.

pay for the oil they take out.

That money will go to a working government, and we will be there during the rebuild.

You have to remember, we didn't go in there and destroy all the power plants.

We didn't do all that.

During the regime of Chavez and Maduro, they turned off water plants in certain cities that still have no water right now.

And the population had to move.

And we see how far and how wide the Venezuelans went.

You went and seen?

There's like two million of them in Peru.

There's two million of them in Argentina.

These people that were educated went to other Latin countries.

So the New York Times just was trying to corner the president.

But what we saw underneath was strategic leadership about what we're going to do to get Venezuela on its feet and get it rolling forward.

But it's an open project that's going to get managed at the State Department level for a little while.

including cautioning Americans over the weekend, hey, there are paramilitary groups that are still down there.