Robbie Bernstein

i i i yeah i think there's a bit of uh uh of a hostile climate and a problem of people being violent towards law enforcement and i'm seeing videos where uh the people who are upset with law enforcement it's not easy to tell who's always instigating but it does look like there's some scenes where instigators are showing up and provoking or getting in the way of ice and if they are throwing things at them or engaging in violent activity that's wrong but no one's been shot at by protesters yet

There's no epidemic of protesters showing up to places with guns and shooting at ICE.

I mean, or shooting at law enforcement.

Or maybe I missed a news story here, but it kind of sounds like you're conflating, you know, violence from protesters, which is wrong.

And protesters shouldn't be violence, but creating like an image as if people are showing up to sites with guns and shooting at law enforcement that we have a problem in this country of violence.

the actual question here like what even if he was there to try to do something violent well you had him on the ground with seven or eight guys around him and had disarmed him before a shot was fired not looking good but also unless there's unless there's a longer video he also didn't start the confrontation he's there with a phone yeah he's trying to keep his distance and then they engaged his the the lady standing next to him and shoved him over

Well, so it's just it's hard to argue that the first confrontation or escalation here wasn't at the hands of ICE, unless you want to take the perspective that if law enforcement decides that they can take down an entire city area, you're at their disposal and whims of law enforcement.

or that a federal agency can roll into your town and decide, hey, we're shutting down the whole town, and now wherever they are, you're now disrupting their workflow.

And I don't think any of us are advocating for that kind of federal or police state.

The idea, firstly, when you say approach law enforcement with a pistol, if I had watched a video, I think a guy has a gun out and he's approaching officers.

So maybe it's technically accurate that he had a gun on him, but also to say that he approached.

So misleading.

You know what I'm saying?

If there was no video of the incident and you just heard this report because they had seen it and you hadn't.

anyway yes it's just incredibly misleading i i don't i also don't know if the framing of him approaching law enforcement is accurate yes if you're standing next to a lady and the law enforcement shoves them over you instinctively put an arm on him which was a mistake but he instinctively tries to kind of you know break it up on pushing over a lady and then they instantly sees him i don't know that it's accurate to say he approached law enforcement

I'll fucking shoot you.

Yeah.

All right, let's listen to the rest of this bullshit.

It sounds like it should be the press conference for a guy who drew his weapon and shot at law enforcement.

And then after the fact, we got a clear, we got a clear case of a person who showed up with a dangerous and criminal intent and tried to kill as many officers as he could.