Robert Baker
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I wanted her to have fun with everything, not just sexually, just everything, everything. Sex was part of it, but everything. I wanted her to enjoy her life, period.
Because when we went out and when I took her places, she could be herself, and it made me feel good to see that.
We touched on it lightly, but I could tell that she wasn't going to do that. That wasn't going to happen.
Fabio was staying home a lot. I couldn't see her, and it played a little number on me.
The plan was to go up, get in there, try to take care of this as fast as possible. Kill him. Yeah.
See you? Oh, he saw me. He saw me. I mean, he did what he was supposed to do. He was trying to protect his house and protect his family and his home. What did he do? He got up real quick, and he grabbed me. I'm trying to get away from him. He's a pretty big guy.
I took one stab to get him to let go of me. He let go, and I just kind of blacked out and just tried to get him off me and just kept cutting until he got off me.
I really don't remember. It seemed like any other day when I met her.
I think they had it separated the whole time, so no. I think she showed herself, yeah.
Listen, listen, listen. Don't talk. I know, I know, listen, listen. Don't talk. Listen, you've got to get a lawyer immediately. Well, I don't know what's going on.
Somebody did this to me, to us.
No.
I'm positive.
He'll almost certainly be in Alabama in custody. They have 72 hours to arrest him.
I was running a racquetball league.
No, never.
I'm a smart guy.
It could be once a week, once every two weeks or three times a week. It all depends on Who's doing what between the both of us?
She called the shots on that based on her schedule.
We touched on it lightly, but I could tell that she wasn't going to do that. That wasn't going to happen.
I murdered him because I wanted her.
I haven't done anything wrong. I shouldn't be here.
And I'm struggling with him, and I'm trying to get away from him. He's a pretty big guy.
And I said to myself, I need to get him off me. I need to cut him. Got him? I took one stab to get him to let go of me. He let go, and I just kind of blacked out and just tried to get him off me and just kept cutting until he got off me.
Yes.
Yeah, I did.
It's nothing to lose.
Um... I don't know. No exact number because I don't want to be called a liar again so I can't give you an exact number. There's no way. I can't give you an exact number. The defense is expected to wrap up here pretty soon, Chetna.
He said on the count of three, he's going to hold him down. And he opened the door and he held his mouth, couldn't scream. And he started, he started stabbing him. I'm sorry. And he stabbed him once.
Listen, listen, listen. Don't talk. I know, I know, listen, listen. Don't talk. Listen, you've got to get a lawyer immediately. Well, I don't know what's going on.
Somebody did this to me, to us.
So, Andrea, last time we spoke on the podcast, we were waiting for a judge to rule on whether or not a dog expert could testify for the defense at the retrial. And that ruling has now come in. The dog expert will be allowed to testify.
That's a big win for the defense because this expert testified during Karen Reid's first trial that the injuries on John O'Keefe's arm were consistent with a dog attack, not with being struck by a car, as you know, the prosecutors allege.
It is remarkable, isn't it? You know, in Rhode Island, our affiliate NBC10 spoke with Karen Reid's brother, Nathan. Here's what Nathan had to say about how he and his family are feeling about the retrial.
Well, Andrea, last week's witnesses painted a vivid picture of what happened in the days leading up to Michael's death. And it's pretty remarkable. how all these people were in and out of the Cochran's house and they were watching his health deteriorate. One friend testified about Natalie's refusal to take Michael to a hospital to be looked at.
No, she said she was going to let him sleep it off. And a contractor working for the couple recalled speaking to Michael a few months before his death and that Michael told him he was feeling dizzy and that he felt he'd been poisoned.
This chemist confirmed that one of the vials was, in fact, insulin. But during cross, when he was asked if he could confirm whether he knew the vial had been used, this chemist said that was not in his area of expertise. The defense argued that if you're going to murder someone, why would you keep the murder weapon in your fridge, right? Well, we'll keep an eye on this one.
It has been a long time. 1996, to be exact, and that's when Shakur was... fatally shot. He was sitting in the passenger seat of a BMW when a white Cadillac pulled up alongside the car and shots were fired.
It was really his own words, authorities say, that put him there. He wrote six years ago in his 2019 memoir that he provided the gun that was used in the drive-by shooting.
Davis's attorney claims that his client's constitutional rights were violated because of a delay prosecuting the case. Witnesses have died. Evidence has potentially been lost. You know, all of that could negatively impact the fairness of a trial. How did the judge rule this week? The judge rejected the motion and upheld the murder case against Davis. Davis has pleaded not guilty. What's next?
Murder trial is still on, happening in March. Sue, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, Andrea.
The defense argued that if you're going to murder someone, why would you keep the murder weapon in your fridge, right?
No.
I'm positive.
I was running a racquetball league.
No, never.
I'm a smart guy.
It could be once a week, once every two weeks or three times a week. It all depends on Who's doing what between the both of us?
She called the shots on that based on her schedule.
We touched on it lightly, but I could tell that she wasn't going to do that. That wasn't going to happen.
I murdered him because I wanted her.
And I'm struggling with him, and I'm trying to get away from him. He's a pretty big guy.
And I said to myself, I need to get him off me. I need to cut him. Got him? I took one stab to get him to let go of me. He let go, and I just kind of blacked out and just tried to get him off me and just kept cutting until he got off me.
Yes.
Yeah, I did.
It's nothing to lose.
Um... I don't know. No exact number because I don't want to be called a liar again so I can't give you an exact number. There's no way. I can't give you an exact number. The defense is expected to wrap up here pretty soon, Chetna.