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Robert Barnes

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Roger Ver, Jan 6ers, Ross Ulbricht: Who Should Trump Pardon First? w/ Attorney Robert Barnes & Aaron Day – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 435

The ability to filter out which ones are the most egregious versus the least when they all violated core principles of constitutional liberty and were all targeted for politically motivated reasons leads me to believe the best way for him to restore confidence in the American people in our justice system is mass pardons of anybody who is targeted for political reasons.

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Roger Ver, Jan 6ers, Ross Ulbricht: Who Should Trump Pardon First? w/ Attorney Robert Barnes & Aaron Day – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 435

The ability to filter out which ones are the most egregious versus the least when they all violated core principles of constitutional liberty and were all targeted for politically motivated reasons leads me to believe the best way for him to restore confidence in the American people in our justice system is mass pardons of anybody who is targeted for political reasons.

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Roger Ver, Jan 6ers, Ross Ulbricht: Who Should Trump Pardon First? w/ Attorney Robert Barnes & Aaron Day – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 435

And that includes Julian Assange, Ed Snowden. That includes, in my view, Roger Ver. That includes other people that Ross Ulbricht. Some of these Trump has made public promises about. Some he hasn't yet commented on. But all of these are people that were targeted for political reasons. And if for no other reason just to restore confidence in the American people and around the world.

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Roger Ver, Jan 6ers, Ross Ulbricht: Who Should Trump Pardon First? w/ Attorney Robert Barnes & Aaron Day – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 435

And that includes Julian Assange, Ed Snowden. That includes, in my view, Roger Ver. That includes other people that Ross Ulbricht. Some of these Trump has made public promises about. Some he hasn't yet commented on. But all of these are people that were targeted for political reasons. And if for no other reason just to restore confidence in the American people and around the world.

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Roger Ver, Jan 6ers, Ross Ulbricht: Who Should Trump Pardon First? w/ Attorney Robert Barnes & Aaron Day – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 435

That our justice system is supposed to be the stellar example of apolitical, nonpolitical, nonprejudicial, nonpartisan justice. We need mass pardons of everybody whose case has the taint of politics surrounding it.

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Roger Ver, Jan 6ers, Ross Ulbricht: Who Should Trump Pardon First? w/ Attorney Robert Barnes & Aaron Day – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 435

That our justice system is supposed to be the stellar example of apolitical, nonpolitical, nonprejudicial, nonpartisan justice. We need mass pardons of everybody whose case has the taint of politics surrounding it.

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Roger Ver, Jan 6ers, Ross Ulbricht: Who Should Trump Pardon First? w/ Attorney Robert Barnes & Aaron Day – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 435

So I want to dial back. There's a lot in what you said there, and I sort of want to parse out a lot of it. One was you made an equivalency, you drew an equivalency between draft evaders in the 70s and January 6thers. If somebody were going to push back on that equivalency, what would they push back on? Is it just that you're saying the pardon is similar?

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Roger Ver, Jan 6ers, Ross Ulbricht: Who Should Trump Pardon First? w/ Attorney Robert Barnes & Aaron Day – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 435

So I want to dial back. There's a lot in what you said there, and I sort of want to parse out a lot of it. One was you made an equivalency, you drew an equivalency between draft evaders in the 70s and January 6thers. If somebody were going to push back on that equivalency, what would they push back on? Is it just that you're saying the pardon is similar?

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Roger Ver, Jan 6ers, Ross Ulbricht: Who Should Trump Pardon First? w/ Attorney Robert Barnes & Aaron Day – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 435

Or are you saying people in a mass sort of civil disobedient action should all be treated the same in relation to that civil disobediency, provided that it's justified in some way?

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Roger Ver, Jan 6ers, Ross Ulbricht: Who Should Trump Pardon First? w/ Attorney Robert Barnes & Aaron Day – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 435

Or are you saying people in a mass sort of civil disobedient action should all be treated the same in relation to that civil disobediency, provided that it's justified in some way?

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Roger Ver, Jan 6ers, Ross Ulbricht: Who Should Trump Pardon First? w/ Attorney Robert Barnes & Aaron Day – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 435

It's both. It's both that a lot of the people were targeted for politically motivated reasons, but also this was a very political action that just got, you know, slightly out of, I mean, it got out of hand without question. But the idea that we're going to put everybody, lock about people up for longer than rapists get? than some murderers get.

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Roger Ver, Jan 6ers, Ross Ulbricht: Who Should Trump Pardon First? w/ Attorney Robert Barnes & Aaron Day – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 435

It's both. It's both that a lot of the people were targeted for politically motivated reasons, but also this was a very political action that just got, you know, slightly out of, I mean, it got out of hand without question. But the idea that we're going to put everybody, lock about people up for longer than rapists get? than some murderers get.

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Roger Ver, Jan 6ers, Ross Ulbricht: Who Should Trump Pardon First? w/ Attorney Robert Barnes & Aaron Day – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 435

We have the lady in Colorado who's doing like nine years over what she thought was blowing the whistle on election issues. So we need to restore confidence in our legal system. And it's both the substance of how these people ended up being prosecuted, but also the procedures that went through it. So there are a lot of the procedures violated core constitutional principles.

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Roger Ver, Jan 6ers, Ross Ulbricht: Who Should Trump Pardon First? w/ Attorney Robert Barnes & Aaron Day – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 435

We have the lady in Colorado who's doing like nine years over what she thought was blowing the whistle on election issues. So we need to restore confidence in our legal system. And it's both the substance of how these people ended up being prosecuted, but also the procedures that went through it. So there are a lot of the procedures violated core constitutional principles.

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Roger Ver, Jan 6ers, Ross Ulbricht: Who Should Trump Pardon First? w/ Attorney Robert Barnes & Aaron Day – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 435

And if nothing more, just to restore confidence in our constitutional system of justice. What you don't want is like what's happening in Syria right now, where they went into the prisons and they just released everybody because they so distrusted the Assad government. They assumed everybody in there could be in there for bogus reasons.

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Roger Ver, Jan 6ers, Ross Ulbricht: Who Should Trump Pardon First? w/ Attorney Robert Barnes & Aaron Day – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 435

And if nothing more, just to restore confidence in our constitutional system of justice. What you don't want is like what's happening in Syria right now, where they went into the prisons and they just released everybody because they so distrusted the Assad government. They assumed everybody in there could be in there for bogus reasons.

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Roger Ver, Jan 6ers, Ross Ulbricht: Who Should Trump Pardon First? w/ Attorney Robert Barnes & Aaron Day – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 435

Unfortunately, they're mixing in political prisoners with rapists and murderers and pedophiles and other very dangerous people. And here we can just distinguish people that were prosecuted for political reasons or the nature of their prosecution violated core constitutional liberties. These are the ones that should be the focal point. And that includes the January 6th defendants.

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Roger Ver, Jan 6ers, Ross Ulbricht: Who Should Trump Pardon First? w/ Attorney Robert Barnes & Aaron Day – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 435

Unfortunately, they're mixing in political prisoners with rapists and murderers and pedophiles and other very dangerous people. And here we can just distinguish people that were prosecuted for political reasons or the nature of their prosecution violated core constitutional liberties. These are the ones that should be the focal point. And that includes the January 6th defendants.

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Roger Ver, Jan 6ers, Ross Ulbricht: Who Should Trump Pardon First? w/ Attorney Robert Barnes & Aaron Day – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 435

I would go back and pardon people like Julian Assange and Ed Snowden because these – I think anybody knows a whistleblower. The Obama administration targeted a lot of whistleblowers. All of these people should be pardoned. And then everybody in the Bitcoin space that they've been harassing like crazy, including Roger Ver, famously known as Bitcoin Jesus, as just one of those illustrative examples.

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Roger Ver, Jan 6ers, Ross Ulbricht: Who Should Trump Pardon First? w/ Attorney Robert Barnes & Aaron Day – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 435

I would go back and pardon people like Julian Assange and Ed Snowden because these – I think anybody knows a whistleblower. The Obama administration targeted a lot of whistleblowers. All of these people should be pardoned. And then everybody in the Bitcoin space that they've been harassing like crazy, including Roger Ver, famously known as Bitcoin Jesus, as just one of those illustrative examples.