Robert Barnes

He's the one right up, but Ross Ulbricht is still in prison. President Trump has promised to commute his sentence because of deep issues about how crypto was targeted and how constitutional rights or civil rights are often violated in the way they were prosecuted.

He's the one right up, but Ross Ulbricht is still in prison. President Trump has promised to commute his sentence because of deep issues about how crypto was targeted and how constitutional rights or civil rights are often violated in the way they were prosecuted.

I want to get into Roger Ver in a second, but I still am sort of struggling with so many of the things on the January 6th front. You mentioned one of the whistleblowers that's in there for nine years where she perceived herself to be a whistleblower. Do we need to spend more work uncovering inconsistencies in the 2016 elections? And is that a necessary element in carrying out these forgivenesses?

I want to get into Roger Ver in a second, but I still am sort of struggling with so many of the things on the January 6th front. You mentioned one of the whistleblowers that's in there for nine years where she perceived herself to be a whistleblower. Do we need to spend more work uncovering inconsistencies in the 2016 elections? And is that a necessary element in carrying out these forgivenesses?

Or is it just going to proceed no matter what? Because there's a lot of mind reading going on, on all sides. I would imagine most of the people on January 6th thought they were acknowledging something happened in the election that they felt needed to be righted, so to speak. And they were demonstrating to that effect.

Or is it just going to proceed no matter what? Because there's a lot of mind reading going on, on all sides. I would imagine most of the people on January 6th thought they were acknowledging something happened in the election that they felt needed to be righted, so to speak. And they were demonstrating to that effect.

On behalf of the January 6th committee, these were people that wouldn't, as far as they were concerned, these were people that wouldn't accept any election results and just were going in there to try to express their discontent and overthrow a government without any weapons, interestingly. I don't know how you do that in the most powerful nation in the world, but okay.

On behalf of the January 6th committee, these were people that wouldn't, as far as they were concerned, these were people that wouldn't accept any election results and just were going in there to try to express their discontent and overthrow a government without any weapons, interestingly. I don't know how you do that in the most powerful nation in the world, but okay.

The point is, this is all mind reading. We need to do something from an evidentiary standpoint to get out of that soup.

The point is, this is all mind reading. We need to do something from an evidentiary standpoint to get out of that soup.

I think that's the utility of making it universal. Because all the January 6th defendants were ultimately prosecuted in D.C., and I have had problems with that about the judge's bias, the prosecutor's bias, the grand jury's bias, and the jury's bias. I think that fact alone is sufficient. We know the cases were politically motivated. We know the discrepancy.

I think that's the utility of making it universal. Because all the January 6th defendants were ultimately prosecuted in D.C., and I have had problems with that about the judge's bias, the prosecutor's bias, the grand jury's bias, and the jury's bias. I think that fact alone is sufficient. We know the cases were politically motivated. We know the discrepancy.

I mean, all these people that went in on the Capitol had seen the Summer of Love, which where the protests were celebrated as discrepancies. you know, mostly peaceful protest while the fires lit up behind. They didn't light anything on fire. Most of them stayed in between the lines when they're walking around the Capitol.

I mean, all these people that went in on the Capitol had seen the Summer of Love, which where the protests were celebrated as discrepancies. you know, mostly peaceful protest while the fires lit up behind. They didn't light anything on fire. Most of them stayed in between the lines when they're walking around the Capitol.

So these were not the people to be so harshly prosecuted, treated worse than, say, the Puerto Rican rebels that tried to take over the Capitol with arms who Bill Clinton pardoned. So or some of the people that committed violent acts with Weather Underground that President Carter pardoned.

So these were not the people to be so harshly prosecuted, treated worse than, say, the Puerto Rican rebels that tried to take over the Capitol with arms who Bill Clinton pardoned. So or some of the people that committed violent acts with Weather Underground that President Carter pardoned.

So this is just when you have politically motivated cases that lead to doubts in the American public and the world about the credibility of our system. The presidential power of the pardon, I think, is there for that purpose to be able to exercise it, to say, no, we're going to stay apolitical as best we can. And there was almost nothing about the January 6th cases that was apolitical.

So this is just when you have politically motivated cases that lead to doubts in the American public and the world about the credibility of our system. The presidential power of the pardon, I think, is there for that purpose to be able to exercise it, to say, no, we're going to stay apolitical as best we can. And there was almost nothing about the January 6th cases that was apolitical.

So before we get to Roger Ver, I have one last sort of question, which is if we start drawing equivalencies between draft evading and January 6th, isn't somebody very quickly going to also form a equivalency between draft evading and illegal immigration into the United States? I understand these aren't citizens, but they are citizens. amongst us, as Abraham Lincoln once argued.

So before we get to Roger Ver, I have one last sort of question, which is if we start drawing equivalencies between draft evading and January 6th, isn't somebody very quickly going to also form a equivalency between draft evading and illegal immigration into the United States? I understand these aren't citizens, but they are citizens. amongst us, as Abraham Lincoln once argued.