Robert Best

How do you respond to that?

But we're not streets ahead of everyone else.

Because the political rhetoric of, you know, I don't know, the reform or the Tories would be that we're somehow ahead of comparable nations.

But we're not saintly or, you know, hair shirt or... No, I wouldn't describe us in that way.

So who's further ahead than us?

So you're saying they're catching up really fast.

So it's more to do with security of supply.

But is that right?

Is that really true that simply through our, you know, we will still in the UK get to 130 to 140 billion of savings of climate related costs just through our own... That's just climate damages.

So the savings are bigger.

Because even though we're an island in an enormous world of people spewing out CO2, even our little bit will save us money.

Emma, we're nowhere near getting to the bottom of all of this.

Much more to talk to you about.

But we're just going to go to a quick break.

You know, this is obviously going to be worrying if you're a Gulf state, but there is quite a lot of data already that what's happened, you know, in terms of Trump's Iran war is already accelerating lots of countries.

Yeah, yeah.

Electric vehicle sales, investment in wind farm solar and all the rest.

That's great.

Why isn't the government pouring money, giving every home the ability to have battery storage and solar power?

So why on earth is the government's responsibility?