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Robert Bryce

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135 total appearances

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Americast
The battle in rural America against AI data centres

And so we're seeing local communities across the country, whether it's in Utah or in New Jersey or you name it, local communities looking at these big projects.

Americast
The battle in rural America against AI data centres

And I've got no dog in this fight.

Americast
The battle in rural America against AI data centres

I use AI.

Americast
The battle in rural America against AI data centres

I use it regularly.

Americast
The battle in rural America against AI data centres

But I've never seen anything like this.

Americast
The battle in rural America against AI data centres

It's a combination of political factors and anger at big tech.

Americast
The battle in rural America against AI data centres

And it really is unprecedented.

Americast
The battle in rural America against AI data centres

I've thought about this quite a lot and I've written about it a lot.

Americast
The battle in rural America against AI data centres

I started covering it in depth now seven or eight months ago, really at the urging of my son, Jacob, who lives in Berlin.

Americast
The battle in rural America against AI data centres

And he said, Dad, you've been following the renewable rejections.

Americast
The battle in rural America against AI data centres

Let's track data center rejections.

Americast
The battle in rural America against AI data centres

But I think the simplest way to think about it on the surface is that local communities are looking at these projects, you know, huge buildings that take a lot of electricity.

Americast
The battle in rural America against AI data centres

The water use is controversial, may be overstated by the opponents, but local communities are looking at them and saying there's not enough benefit for us.

Americast
The battle in rural America against AI data centres

And that's very similar to what we've seen with solar and wind.

Americast
The battle in rural America against AI data centres

The other is that there's an anger in the US and I think around the world at big tech, the loss of privacy, the algorithms, the scale of the fortunes of the oligarchs like Bezos and Zuckerberg and the rest of them.

Americast
The battle in rural America against AI data centres

So I think people are seeing the way I would boil it down, Justin, is people can't fight big tech online.

Americast
The battle in rural America against AI data centres

They can't go to, you know, fight Google online, but they can fight them at the local zoning board.

Americast
The battle in rural America against AI data centres

And that's what they're doing.

Americast
The battle in rural America against AI data centres

Oh, well, they're definitely thinking about this.

Americast
The battle in rural America against AI data centres

I mean, there's no doubt about it.