Robert Bryce

It's called Hyperion.

it will draw two gigawatts of power, 2,000 megawatts.

That's as much as the city of Minneapolis.

I mean, these are just very, very large numbers.

And at a time when electricity bills are going up, people rightly or wrongly are saying, hey,

you know, big tech, what have you done for us lately?

And you're partly to blame.

Right or wrong, I'm not saying that's, you know, there are a lot of studies out there saying, oh, don't blame big tech, don't blame data centers.

You know, I'm not sure it's that simple, but clearly this has tapped into a public anger that is truly remarkable.

What's going to happen?

It's in desperate need of a charge here, Justin.

And it's cloudy as well.

What's going to happen?

Well, I think that the data center buildout is going to continue.

Like I said, this isn't going to hijack the buildout necessarily.

These projects and project developers have to be better at locating them, finding sites where it's not close to urban areas or regions where people can object.

They need a better public face, and they don't have one.

Let me address it in a different way, because what you already are seeing is the big tech companies being very serious, first and foremost, about water.

And I think this is the one issue that is emotional, difficult to get people to come around to.

And everyone everywhere cares about their water.