Robert Diamant

In the elements, everything.

But you trust yourself and you trust the art and the work and nature and all these things.

I think that's so important.

If you think of that horrible word trends, but this idea of trends in art and what's happening at the moment, you know what I mean?

And then people start copying other artists that are hot in that time.

And what I think makes a great artist is like you're saying, you find what your voice is, what you're interested in, and it probably is not fashionable.

Yeah.

In today's art market or exhibition history or whatever it might be.

Because Tracy and you, like, I think all of your subject matter isn't necessarily stuff that other people are, you know what I mean?

Like investigating at this time.

Or you look back at Paula Regal, you look back at Louise Bourgeois, the time they were all making work.

Even Frida Kahlo, she was never taken as seriously in the time she was making it.

It's really interesting.

So I think you do have to stick to your guns.

I think so.

In the last few years, your work is being seen more than ever before.

And what's that been like for you?

Because you're also now working with Lorcan O'Neill as a gallerist and you did a beautiful show in Rome in his incredible gallery, which is also beautiful.

Very verdant and green.

But what's it like putting together an exhibition now?