Robert Epstein

Well, the same has happened with Bing, and the same has happened with Yahoo. What about Brave? No, Brave is still independent. I know Brendan Eich, you should have him on if you haven't. And he's the guy who wrote Brave. Before that, he wrote Firefox for Mozilla. He left because Google was... had its tentacles into Firefox.

Well, the same has happened with Bing, and the same has happened with Yahoo. What about Brave? No, Brave is still independent. I know Brendan Eich, you should have him on if you haven't. And he's the guy who wrote Brave. Before that, he wrote Firefox for Mozilla. He left because Google was... had its tentacles into Firefox.

Well, we know in some cases with some of these companies what happened. I don't know the particulars with DuckDuckGo, but it's easy enough to guess. They're under... All of these... These alternative websites that are trying to protect people's privacy. So we use ProtonMail, for example. We use Signal for texting. They've all run into problems. And the problem is when Google goes after them.

Well, we know in some cases with some of these companies what happened. I don't know the particulars with DuckDuckGo, but it's easy enough to guess. They're under... All of these... These alternative websites that are trying to protect people's privacy. So we use ProtonMail, for example. We use Signal for texting. They've all run into problems. And the problem is when Google goes after them.

Well, we know in some cases with some of these companies what happened. I don't know the particulars with DuckDuckGo, but it's easy enough to guess. They're under... All of these... These alternative websites that are trying to protect people's privacy. So we use ProtonMail, for example. We use Signal for texting. They've all run into problems. And the problem is when Google goes after them.

So Google tried to shut down ProtonMail. That's been well documented. Really?

So Google tried to shut down ProtonMail. That's been well documented. Really?

So Google tried to shut down ProtonMail. That's been well documented. Really?

Because they saw it possibly cutting in a little bit into their Gmail business. And they were brutal. They were brutal in suppressing any mention of ProtonMail anywhere. Don't forget, it's not just the search results. It's the search suggestions. It's the answer boxes. Right. How were they suppressing ProtonMail? The way they suppress everything else.

Because they saw it possibly cutting in a little bit into their Gmail business. And they were brutal. They were brutal in suppressing any mention of ProtonMail anywhere. Don't forget, it's not just the search results. It's the search suggestions. It's the answer boxes. Right. How were they suppressing ProtonMail? The way they suppress everything else.

Because they saw it possibly cutting in a little bit into their Gmail business. And they were brutal. They were brutal in suppressing any mention of ProtonMail anywhere. Don't forget, it's not just the search results. It's the search suggestions. It's the answer boxes. Right. How were they suppressing ProtonMail? The way they suppress everything else.

I'll give you a detail here that you may not know. Okay. Okay. Because they don't have to adjust their algorithms to do something this simple. Their algorithms, all of them, as far as I know, check blacklists and check whitelists. So all they have to do is add a couple of proton male links to blacklists.

I'll give you a detail here that you may not know. Okay. Okay. Because they don't have to adjust their algorithms to do something this simple. Their algorithms, all of them, as far as I know, check blacklists and check whitelists. So all they have to do is add a couple of proton male links to blacklists.

I'll give you a detail here that you may not know. Okay. Okay. Because they don't have to adjust their algorithms to do something this simple. Their algorithms, all of them, as far as I know, check blacklists and check whitelists. So all they have to do is add a couple of proton male links to blacklists.

And that means that before one of their algorithms will take someone somewhere or will show someone something... It checks for the blacklist first. And if you put ProtonMail on the blacklist, it's suppressed and it doesn't appear.

And that means that before one of their algorithms will take someone somewhere or will show someone something... It checks for the blacklist first. And if you put ProtonMail on the blacklist, it's suppressed and it doesn't appear.

And that means that before one of their algorithms will take someone somewhere or will show someone something... It checks for the blacklist first. And if you put ProtonMail on the blacklist, it's suppressed and it doesn't appear.

This is not suppressing at all. Okay, now this is where my staff has warned me, don't be condescending to Joe Rogan. How is it condescending? I'm just asking a question. You can just give me an answer. No, I know I could, but I was about to be condescending.

This is not suppressing at all. Okay, now this is where my staff has warned me, don't be condescending to Joe Rogan. How is it condescending? I'm just asking a question. You can just give me an answer. No, I know I could, but I was about to be condescending.

This is not suppressing at all. Okay, now this is where my staff has warned me, don't be condescending to Joe Rogan. How is it condescending? I'm just asking a question. You can just give me an answer. No, I know I could, but I was about to be condescending.