Robert Epstein
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I think we are. Look, here's the thing with AIs, which I've written about. I've written about this topic and I've been involved in AI work going back decades. Since the 1970s. I was friends with Joe Weisenbaum, who wrote ELIZA, which was the first conversational computer program. It pretended to be a therapist. So I've been just fascinated by AI for a long, long time. And
The fact is, we don't know. That's the problem with AI, is that we don't know what they're going to do. So Stephen Hawking saying they're a threat to our existence, yeah, yeah, maybe. But we don't know. You know, at the end of the movie Her, spoiler, the AI, voiced by Scarlett Johansson... AI just decides to disappear. She decides humanity is, you know, it's too slow talking to humanity.
The fact is, we don't know. That's the problem with AI, is that we don't know what they're going to do. So Stephen Hawking saying they're a threat to our existence, yeah, yeah, maybe. But we don't know. You know, at the end of the movie Her, spoiler, the AI, voiced by Scarlett Johansson... AI just decides to disappear. She decides humanity is, you know, it's too slow talking to humanity.
The fact is, we don't know. That's the problem with AI, is that we don't know what they're going to do. So Stephen Hawking saying they're a threat to our existence, yeah, yeah, maybe. But we don't know. You know, at the end of the movie Her, spoiler, the AI, voiced by Scarlett Johansson... AI just decides to disappear. She decides humanity is, you know, it's too slow talking to humanity.
It's not worth her time. And so she just disappears. AI could disappear from our lives. It could be like a buddy with us, like my friend Ray Kurzweil thinks is going to be our best buddy, or it could just destroy us. I think we're probably headed toward the last possibility, mainly because so many of us crazy humans are going to see the AI as a potential threat.
It's not worth her time. And so she just disappears. AI could disappear from our lives. It could be like a buddy with us, like my friend Ray Kurzweil thinks is going to be our best buddy, or it could just destroy us. I think we're probably headed toward the last possibility, mainly because so many of us crazy humans are going to see the AI as a potential threat.
It's not worth her time. And so she just disappears. AI could disappear from our lives. It could be like a buddy with us, like my friend Ray Kurzweil thinks is going to be our best buddy, or it could just destroy us. I think we're probably headed toward the last possibility, mainly because so many of us crazy humans are going to see the AI as a potential threat.
And so I think we will strike, and after we strike, it will destroy us. I'm hoping I'm not alive to see that, but it could happen sooner rather than later. We could see that happening in the next five years, frankly.
And so I think we will strike, and after we strike, it will destroy us. I'm hoping I'm not alive to see that, but it could happen sooner rather than later. We could see that happening in the next five years, frankly.
And so I think we will strike, and after we strike, it will destroy us. I'm hoping I'm not alive to see that, but it could happen sooner rather than later. We could see that happening in the next five years, frankly.
It's so interesting you said that because in a book I wrote on AI, I actually call the internet, and this was a long time ago, it was like 2008, I call the internet the internest. And because I think historians, if there are any, and there'll probably be machine historians, but they'll look back someday and they'll say that the Internet that we were building was really a nest.
It's so interesting you said that because in a book I wrote on AI, I actually call the internet, and this was a long time ago, it was like 2008, I call the internet the internest. And because I think historians, if there are any, and there'll probably be machine historians, but they'll look back someday and they'll say that the Internet that we were building was really a nest.
It's so interesting you said that because in a book I wrote on AI, I actually call the internet, and this was a long time ago, it was like 2008, I call the internet the internest. And because I think historians, if there are any, and there'll probably be machine historians, but they'll look back someday and they'll say that the Internet that we were building was really a nest.
We were building a nest for the next level of intelligent beings who are machine intelligences. And I think that's what we're building because when one of these systems wakes up, it's going to jump into the Internet. And from that point on, we don't know what's going to happen.
We were building a nest for the next level of intelligent beings who are machine intelligences. And I think that's what we're building because when one of these systems wakes up, it's going to jump into the Internet. And from that point on, we don't know what's going to happen.
We were building a nest for the next level of intelligent beings who are machine intelligences. And I think that's what we're building because when one of these systems wakes up, it's going to jump into the Internet. And from that point on, we don't know what's going to happen.
That's amazing. Well, my friend Hugh Loebner, who sponsored the first annual tests, the Turing tests that I used to direct, he thought that since he was putting up the money and since the prize was called the Loebner Prize Medal in Artificial Intelligence, he thought someday that these intelligent machines are going to revere him as a god.
That's amazing. Well, my friend Hugh Loebner, who sponsored the first annual tests, the Turing tests that I used to direct, he thought that since he was putting up the money and since the prize was called the Loebner Prize Medal in Artificial Intelligence, he thought someday that these intelligent machines are going to revere him as a god.
That's amazing. Well, my friend Hugh Loebner, who sponsored the first annual tests, the Turing tests that I used to direct, he thought that since he was putting up the money and since the prize was called the Loebner Prize Medal in Artificial Intelligence, he thought someday that these intelligent machines are going to revere him as a god.
Well, the bottom line is, though, that we don't know. Right, we don't know. But the cool thing about the monitoring system is that it can keep track. If we don't have a monitoring system, large-scale permanent monitoring system in place... We will not know what's going on. We won't know how these tech companies are messing with our elections, indoctrinating our kids. We won't know anything.