Robert Evans

Right.

It's so powerful.

you know, Zionist narratives, and they describe their solidarity with Palestinians, not as a rejection of Jewish identity, but as a expression of their commitment to universal justice and as a rejection maybe of Zionism, but not their Judaism.

I think that decent people of all stripes are seeing what Palestinian journalists and Lebanese journalists have risked their lives exposing.

They're seeing a genocide live streamed on their smartphones and, you know, live streamed by these amazing journalists, you know, who are living in killing cages.

And anyone who's a decent person, whether you're Jewish or not, will turn away from the ideology that is responsible for that genocide.

you know, Zionist institutions, I think it's just their basic humanity, the same as so many other groups of people are.

There is a very maybe specific way that they are metabolizing that or acting out against it.

Because despite the fact that the genocide has happened and is happening now,

that anti-Zionism component hasn't really risen very much.

But the second question is like, do you think rediscovering Dundas thought like offers a way through it?

We want strong borders and to like, you know, deport all the illegals, but also we fucking hate ICE.

And I'm like, you just want like wildly contradictory things.

And I wonder like how, I don't know, like how educated people even are and how much like the framing of questions affects what people think.

I mean-

I'm trying to think of what to make of it.

I mean, I do think, very sadly, there are a large number of American Jewish people.

So this is more like my speculation type thing.

But they're very progressive.

Yeah.