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Robert Evans

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Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

And when you ask that, you're asking, like, give me a good reason to want a Neanderthal clone that's not, like, some sort of cheap profit. Like, why is this desirable? And his first answer is, well, that's another thing. I tend to decide on what is desirable based on societal consensus. My role is to determine what's technologically feasible.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

All I can do is reduce the risk and increase the benefits. Wow. That is bad scientific ethics. Yeah. First off, man, you shouldn't decide what's desirable based on societal consensus. Go back to the 50s. What was societal consensus on interracial dating? If you're letting that move you to decide what's desirable, you're going to be bad.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

All I can do is reduce the risk and increase the benefits. Wow. That is bad scientific ethics. Yeah. First off, man, you shouldn't decide what's desirable based on societal consensus. Go back to the 50s. What was societal consensus on interracial dating? If you're letting that move you to decide what's desirable, you're going to be bad.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

All I can do is reduce the risk and increase the benefits. Wow. That is bad scientific ethics. Yeah. First off, man, you shouldn't decide what's desirable based on societal consensus. Go back to the 50s. What was societal consensus on interracial dating? If you're letting that move you to decide what's desirable, you're going to be bad.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

Um, and the attitude that like, well, my only job is to determine like, what are people willing to let me do? And then what's technically feasible? You're literally doing the Ian Malcolm in Jurassic Park thing. Like you're literally, your scientists are so busy asking what they can do. They're not asking, should we? Is this fucked up?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

Um, and the attitude that like, well, my only job is to determine like, what are people willing to let me do? And then what's technically feasible? You're literally doing the Ian Malcolm in Jurassic Park thing. Like you're literally, your scientists are so busy asking what they can do. They're not asking, should we? Is this fucked up?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

Um, and the attitude that like, well, my only job is to determine like, what are people willing to let me do? And then what's technically feasible? You're literally doing the Ian Malcolm in Jurassic Park thing. Like you're literally, your scientists are so busy asking what they can do. They're not asking, should we? Is this fucked up?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

Like, Michael Crichton was not a good man, but he understood that this is bad ethics, right? That just be like, I wonder if I can. It's like evil. It leads you to do evil. Yeah.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

Like, Michael Crichton was not a good man, but he understood that this is bad ethics, right? That just be like, I wonder if I can. It's like evil. It leads you to do evil. Yeah.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

Like, Michael Crichton was not a good man, but he understood that this is bad ethics, right? That just be like, I wonder if I can. It's like evil. It leads you to do evil. Yeah.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

Yeah. Fine. Probably fine. Fuck it. Yeah. So it's very interesting to me how just he has, he's completely incurious as to whether or not there's a practical benefit to doing this kind of cloning. And Der Spiegel has to prod him like two or three times to get him to answer kind of directly, like, what is, is there any potential benefit to bringing back this species?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

Yeah. Fine. Probably fine. Fuck it. Yeah. So it's very interesting to me how just he has, he's completely incurious as to whether or not there's a practical benefit to doing this kind of cloning. And Der Spiegel has to prod him like two or three times to get him to answer kind of directly, like, what is, is there any potential benefit to bringing back this species?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

Yeah. Fine. Probably fine. Fuck it. Yeah. So it's very interesting to me how just he has, he's completely incurious as to whether or not there's a practical benefit to doing this kind of cloning. And Der Spiegel has to prod him like two or three times to get him to answer kind of directly, like, what is, is there any potential benefit to bringing back this species?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

And here's what Church eventually says. Well, Neanderthals might think differently than we do. We know that they had a larger cranial size. They could even be more intelligent than us. When the time comes to deal with an epidemic or getting off the planet or whatever, it's conceivable that their way of thinking could be beneficial.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

And here's what Church eventually says. Well, Neanderthals might think differently than we do. We know that they had a larger cranial size. They could even be more intelligent than us. When the time comes to deal with an epidemic or getting off the planet or whatever, it's conceivable that their way of thinking could be beneficial.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

And here's what Church eventually says. Well, Neanderthals might think differently than we do. We know that they had a larger cranial size. They could even be more intelligent than us. When the time comes to deal with an epidemic or getting off the planet or whatever, it's conceivable that their way of thinking could be beneficial.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

I got a lot of issues here.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

I got a lot of issues here.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

I got a lot of issues here.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

First off, let's split my issues here into pragmatic and then ethical. Pragmatic, bigger brain doesn't mean smarter. No. Dolphins have a bigger brain than us. They're not, so far, proven useful in getting us off the planet. They have other concerns, right? Yeah. The other thing is, if you're creating, if you're bringing back this species...