Robert Evans

controlling, he's like definitely trying to like... That's basically what I knew about Phil Spector going into this, is that he was like super controlling in his professional and personal relationships.

And that is exactly it.

And we'll get more into like this professional side of this too, but it is alarming early, you know?

And like Sophie, we brought this up earlier, it's like letting people get away with stuff and how long can they get away with it, you know?

And, and it seems like, I mean, it's the fifties.

So let's be fair.

Like this is still the time where, or like early sixties, this is definitely the time where like, like jokes on TV were like, your wife is talking too much.

Give her the old one, four in the eye, you know, like, you know, like the honeymooners are like actively like, like to the moon.

I'm going to punch you in the face.

That's not even a good accent.

Archie Bunker's shit.

He's great, you guys.

You were doing your best.

it's interesting the two different kinds of reactions to oh I keep like doing things I'm not supposed to be doing and I haven't gotten in trouble yet because like the two reactions are the one I have had about things that I won't talk about on air where at a certain point more than whatever the statute of limitations is ago I was like I'm going to stop doing this done this too many times I'm not going to keep taking this risk anymore like I've gotten lucky but I feel like I'm going to stop rolling the dice on this

I feel the exact same way every time my registration on my car goes more than eight months out of date.

When I'm like, all right, eight months, that's a long time to be getting away with this.

Yeah, those three years I didn't register my car.

No reason to stop now.

All right, so.

Spoiler alert on Phil.