Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

You know, I don't want to sit here and speak uncharitably by saying the guy... didn't do anything, but I can't think of anything. I mean, if you tell me something that you think he did, maybe there was a drug that got licensed while he was at NIH that benefited people, that's certainly possible. He was there for 50 years. In terms of his principal programs of the

AIDS programs and his COVID programs. And I think that the harm that he did vastly outweighed the benefits.

AIDS programs and his COVID programs. And I think that the harm that he did vastly outweighed the benefits.

AIDS programs and his COVID programs. And I think that the harm that he did vastly outweighed the benefits.

I don't know what he believes. In fact, in that book, which is, I think, 250,000 words, I never try to look inside of his head. I deal with facts. I deal with science. And every factual assertion in that book is... cited in source to government databases or peer-reviewed publications. And I try not to speculate about things that I don't know about or I can't prove.

I don't know what he believes. In fact, in that book, which is, I think, 250,000 words, I never try to look inside of his head. I deal with facts. I deal with science. And every factual assertion in that book is... cited in source to government databases or peer-reviewed publications. And I try not to speculate about things that I don't know about or I can't prove.

I don't know what he believes. In fact, in that book, which is, I think, 250,000 words, I never try to look inside of his head. I deal with facts. I deal with science. And every factual assertion in that book is... cited in source to government databases or peer-reviewed publications. And I try not to speculate about things that I don't know about or I can't prove.

And I cannot tell you what his motivations were. I mean, all of us, he's done a lot of things that I think are really very, very bad things for humanity and very deceptive. But we all have this capacity for self-deception. As I said at the beginning of this podcast, we judge ourselves on our intentions rather than our actions, and we all do.

And I cannot tell you what his motivations were. I mean, all of us, he's done a lot of things that I think are really very, very bad things for humanity and very deceptive. But we all have this capacity for self-deception. As I said at the beginning of this podcast, we judge ourselves on our intentions rather than our actions, and we all do.

And I cannot tell you what his motivations were. I mean, all of us, he's done a lot of things that I think are really very, very bad things for humanity and very deceptive. But we all have this capacity for self-deception. As I said at the beginning of this podcast, we judge ourselves on our intentions rather than our actions, and we all do.

have an almost infinite capacity to convince ourselves that what we're doing is right. Not everybody kind of lives an examined life, that the world might experience their professions of goodness.

have an almost infinite capacity to convince ourselves that what we're doing is right. Not everybody kind of lives an examined life, that the world might experience their professions of goodness.

have an almost infinite capacity to convince ourselves that what we're doing is right. Not everybody kind of lives an examined life, that the world might experience their professions of goodness.

No, I think he was a genuinely bad human being. and that there were many, many good people in that department over the years. Bernice Eddy is a really good example. John Anthony Morris, many people whose careers he destroyed because they were trying to tell the truth. One after the other, the greatest scientists in the history of NIH were run out of that agency.

No, I think he was a genuinely bad human being. and that there were many, many good people in that department over the years. Bernice Eddy is a really good example. John Anthony Morris, many people whose careers he destroyed because they were trying to tell the truth. One after the other, the greatest scientists in the history of NIH were run out of that agency.

No, I think he was a genuinely bad human being. and that there were many, many good people in that department over the years. Bernice Eddy is a really good example. John Anthony Morris, many people whose careers he destroyed because they were trying to tell the truth. One after the other, the greatest scientists in the history of NIH were run out of that agency.

But, you know, people listening to this, you know, probably, you know, in hearing me say that will think that I'm bitter or that I'm doctrinaire about him. But, you know, you should really go and read my book. And it's hard to summarize a, you know, I tried to be really methodical and not call names, to just say what happened.

But, you know, people listening to this, you know, probably, you know, in hearing me say that will think that I'm bitter or that I'm doctrinaire about him. But, you know, you should really go and read my book. And it's hard to summarize a, you know, I tried to be really methodical and not call names, to just say what happened.

But, you know, people listening to this, you know, probably, you know, in hearing me say that will think that I'm bitter or that I'm doctrinaire about him. But, you know, you should really go and read my book. And it's hard to summarize a, you know, I tried to be really methodical and not call names, to just say what happened.

Well, the problem could be fixed through regulation, you know, the problems, but the pharmaceutical industry is, is I mean, I don't want to say, because this is going to seem extreme, that a criminal enterprise, but if you look at the history, that is an applicable characterization.