Robert Harward

Not only are they failed militarily, they've failed governance.

They're not taking care of the Iranian people.

And they've had to suffer under this regime for decades and three

a real boiling point now where there is an opportunity for them to drive that change.

I couldn't agree with you more.

And I think as we came out of the war in Iraq, many administrations were afraid to be engaged, did not want to use force.

They didn't want to be embroiled in the Middle East and saw this as a potential conflict.

So they used a policy of accommodation and appeasement.

You're back to an administration that understands realpolitik.

you know, national security that's not driven by ideology, by common sense, and they're willing to use force to reinforce those national security interests.

And if you find an Iran

government in Iran that provides for their people wants to grow and prosper as they did under the Shah in the 60s and 70s is saying not only the geopolitical context of the region, but broader because our adversaries rely on them to be a part of their access of evil that has now been deteriorated and eradicated.

So, yeah, it changes everything, Ben.

I think you've hit one of those real stats.

Not only have we sanctioned the oil, but if we embargo it, we stop it, that's additional pressure on the regime.

I got to remember, I was in Frankfurt Airport a few months ago, and I'm listening to an Iranian on his phone talking to his boss.

Hey, sir, I can't sell stuff because we're sanctioned and all.

And so when I got off the phone, I talked to him.

I said, how bad is it, Iran?

He said, look, they're murdering any dissidents.