Robert Lighthizer

But there were a lot of things that were sort of signals, and that was kind of the peak. By the time we got to Ronald Reagan, as I say, there was already a loss of a lot of jobs. There was an unsettling among our working class people, which, as I say – Unlike a lot of places, it is us. It's 70, 65, 70 percent of it. It is us. And then and then you found yourself the Berlin Wall fell.

There was this notion of the end of history that for now on, everything is going to be better. We're all going to be democracies and we're all going to have open markets. And there's all this greatness. You can remember Frank Fukuyama and other morons.

There was this notion of the end of history that for now on, everything is going to be better. We're all going to be democracies and we're all going to have open markets. And there's all this greatness. You can remember Frank Fukuyama and other morons.

There was this notion of the end of history that for now on, everything is going to be better. We're all going to be democracies and we're all going to have open markets. And there's all this greatness. You can remember Frank Fukuyama and other morons.

Yeah, they're right. So then you found yourself with Clinton in the end of Bush. It's not because I don't want to be totally partisan. The end of Bush 41, Herbert Walker Bush, and then into Clinton. And we have what I call the trifecta of stupid. All right. We do NAFTA. We do the WTO, the Uruguay around that. And then the dumbest of them all, we give most favored nation treatment to China.

Yeah, they're right. So then you found yourself with Clinton in the end of Bush. It's not because I don't want to be totally partisan. The end of Bush 41, Herbert Walker Bush, and then into Clinton. And we have what I call the trifecta of stupid. All right. We do NAFTA. We do the WTO, the Uruguay around that. And then the dumbest of them all, we give most favored nation treatment to China.

Yeah, they're right. So then you found yourself with Clinton in the end of Bush. It's not because I don't want to be totally partisan. The end of Bush 41, Herbert Walker Bush, and then into Clinton. And we have what I call the trifecta of stupid. All right. We do NAFTA. We do the WTO, the Uruguay around that. And then the dumbest of them all, we give most favored nation treatment to China.

And those things are done more or less in the times of about 10 years.

And those things are done more or less in the times of about 10 years.

And those things are done more or less in the times of about 10 years.

Is that correct? No, it passed under Clinton. So this is an interesting fact. In like 1997, I did an article for the New York Times. And you'll recall during the second Clinton election, there was this talk about Indonesian money came into the Clinton.

Is that correct? No, it passed under Clinton. So this is an interesting fact. In like 1997, I did an article for the New York Times. And you'll recall during the second Clinton election, there was this talk about Indonesian money came into the Clinton.

Is that correct? No, it passed under Clinton. So this is an interesting fact. In like 1997, I did an article for the New York Times. And you'll recall during the second Clinton election, there was this talk about Indonesian money came into the Clinton.

Exactly. Was it the Commerce Department? Yeah, yeah. I did an article recently. which the New York Times published, it sort of said, well, what's this about? This is not Indonesian money, it's Chinese money. What does China want? They want most favored nation treatment and they want to get into the WTO. And if they do, there won't be an American job that's safe. So this is in 1997.

Exactly. Was it the Commerce Department? Yeah, yeah. I did an article recently. which the New York Times published, it sort of said, well, what's this about? This is not Indonesian money, it's Chinese money. What does China want? They want most favored nation treatment and they want to get into the WTO. And if they do, there won't be an American job that's safe. So this is in 1997.

Exactly. Was it the Commerce Department? Yeah, yeah. I did an article recently. which the New York Times published, it sort of said, well, what's this about? This is not Indonesian money, it's Chinese money. What does China want? They want most favored nation treatment and they want to get into the WTO. And if they do, there won't be an American job that's safe. So this is in 1997.

Fast forward, you have this vote Clinton is pushing it. By the way, it passes with more Republicans than the Democrats. The Republicans are worse on this at that time. A lot of them have kind of learned. And then we have these things pass. So we have this trifecta of stupid, as I call it. And then we have 5 million manufacturing jobs lost. You just see jobs lost.

Fast forward, you have this vote Clinton is pushing it. By the way, it passes with more Republicans than the Democrats. The Republicans are worse on this at that time. A lot of them have kind of learned. And then we have these things pass. So we have this trifecta of stupid, as I call it. And then we have 5 million manufacturing jobs lost. You just see jobs lost.

Fast forward, you have this vote Clinton is pushing it. By the way, it passes with more Republicans than the Democrats. The Republicans are worse on this at that time. A lot of them have kind of learned. And then we have these things pass. So we have this trifecta of stupid, as I call it. And then we have 5 million manufacturing jobs lost. You just see jobs lost.

Wages are basically not going up in real-term sense then. You know, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. And a lot of these very bad outcomes for working people, I would say, for the country generally, you can say, came at that time. Now, if you say, well, is the system deteriorating before then? For sure it was.