Robert Lukens

We live in a world of walls.

They don't need to be concrete to exist.

We live in a country that is doing its best to create a wall around this country with the others coming in as well.

There doesn't need to be a concrete wall.

We can create them through systems and people and all sorts of border forces and whatever else have you.

So this wall, it exists right now.

And as we touched upon earlier, this doesn't seem like a world amazingly removed.

The fact that they

have just actually just given away with all pretense and just started calling these people capital O others and we're the defenders, that's just a very short skip away from where we are now.

It's just they formalised what is happening all around the world now.

So it's why this novel is so resonant and it does feel so real.

Yeah, I think, I think so.

It's improved with time with me.

I've read it twice because I do, and it's a failing with me.

As soon as the explosions start, I start looking out the window.

I really don't, that's the problem.

That's a problem with me, I realised.

So I read it twice to make sure, because there are a lot of, and we talked earlier.

There's lots of action.

And to be honest, I don't think that's Lanchester's strength because to me, as soon as the explosion started for those long periods, there was a lot of description of people moved from A to B and go up this bridge and down that bridge.