Robert Luna

Jordan, thank you. I'm Robert Barron. I'm the bishop of the Winona Rochester Diocese, which is basically southern Minnesota. I'm also the founder of Word on Fire Catholic Ministries, which is an evangelical So I'm here as a believing Christian, as an evangelist, and I think there's saving power in these great texts.

Jordan, thank you. I'm Robert Barron. I'm the bishop of the Winona Rochester Diocese, which is basically southern Minnesota. I'm also the founder of Word on Fire Catholic Ministries, which is an evangelical So I'm here as a believing Christian, as an evangelist, and I think there's saving power in these great texts.

But I'm also here as someone interested in the cultural impact right now of the scriptures. I think it's fascinating, you played a role in this, that there's been a revival of interest in the Bible. And a lot of my ministry is directed toward the nuns, the N-O-N-E-S, those who have no religion. But many of them are fascinated by the Bible. So I'm eager to hear everyone's perspective.

But I'm also here as someone interested in the cultural impact right now of the scriptures. I think it's fascinating, you played a role in this, that there's been a revival of interest in the Bible. And a lot of my ministry is directed toward the nuns, the N-O-N-E-S, those who have no religion. But many of them are fascinated by the Bible. So I'm eager to hear everyone's perspective.

And I'm here partially to, you know, try to unlock some of the power of this text for those who have been alienated from religion for different reasons. But just delighted to be part of it.

And I'm here partially to, you know, try to unlock some of the power of this text for those who have been alienated from religion for different reasons. But just delighted to be part of it.

Could I maybe suggest, in some ways, the climax of the New Testament revelation is the claim that God is love. I like the way you set that up. If power and hedonism are absolute values, then we're in serious trouble. Put love above both of them. Now power is directed by love. And what's love but to will the good of the other?

Could I maybe suggest, in some ways, the climax of the New Testament revelation is the claim that God is love. I like the way you set that up. If power and hedonism are absolute values, then we're in serious trouble. Put love above both of them. Now power is directed by love. And what's love but to will the good of the other?

So the sacrificial narrative of the cross fits under that heading as well. But if the ultimate reality is love, then we can find a place for all these subordinate values. if we get rid of love as a supreme value, then we have the serious problem of power unleashed, or hedonism for its own sake. So I think that's the trajectory toward which the entire New Testament is going.

So the sacrificial narrative of the cross fits under that heading as well. But if the ultimate reality is love, then we can find a place for all these subordinate values. if we get rid of love as a supreme value, then we have the serious problem of power unleashed, or hedonism for its own sake. So I think that's the trajectory toward which the entire New Testament is going.

That God's name is being in the Old Testament. I am who I am. And Christian theology recognizes that as a supremely high name of God, but higher still is the claim that God is love. And in fact, the Trinity comes from that. You know, if God is love in his own most nature, there must be lover, beloved, and love shared.

That God's name is being in the Old Testament. I am who I am. And Christian theology recognizes that as a supremely high name of God, but higher still is the claim that God is love. And in fact, the Trinity comes from that. You know, if God is love in his own most nature, there must be lover, beloved, and love shared.

So I might suggest that's where the New Testament is going, is love is the supreme value, the supreme reality.

So I might suggest that's where the New Testament is going, is love is the supreme value, the supreme reality.

Out of love.

Out of love.

That's the great expression of love. Right.

That's the great expression of love. Right.

One thing I would say in response to your question is the logos being talked about here is the interior word of the Father. So the word of creation is more of a word that goes out. But within the Godhead itself, there's an interior word. The Father has an imago of himself that we call the Son. The Father and Son fall in love with each other. The mutual love is the Holy Spirit.

One thing I would say in response to your question is the logos being talked about here is the interior word of the Father. So the word of creation is more of a word that goes out. But within the Godhead itself, there's an interior word. The Father has an imago of himself that we call the Son. The Father and Son fall in love with each other. The mutual love is the Holy Spirit.