Robert Mustacchi

yeah of kind of where we want to go but with the constraints um but with the constraints that you know effectively you know we're not doing our own boards we're not really getting to that little axis you know how do we how do we work with folks there and at the same time there's broader business constraints around you know who you have to work with um what's available on the market you know ultimately to be economically minded in different ways so but

yeah of kind of where we want to go but with the constraints um but with the constraints that you know effectively you know we're not doing our own boards we're not really getting to that little axis you know how do we how do we work with folks there and at the same time there's broader business constraints around you know who you have to work with um what's available on the market you know ultimately to be economically minded in different ways so but

Yeah. Cause I was about to say, if you have that, you should, you should drop that in. Cause I feel like that's, that's a emblematic of the, of the discussion we have. It's like, ah, like let's drop these different pieces on the whiteboard. And then we go back and forth. Like, oh, let's talk about what's connected. You're like, they're just gonna be fully connected. And of course you are right.

Yeah. Cause I was about to say, if you have that, you should, you should drop that in. Cause I feel like that's, that's a emblematic of the, of the discussion we have. It's like, ah, like let's drop these different pieces on the whiteboard. And then we go back and forth. Like, oh, let's talk about what's connected. You're like, they're just gonna be fully connected. And of course you are right.

But,

But,

Yeah, so I think to really start to get at Dogpatch, I actually had to rewind to actually back to Fishworks and AK, which was the appliance kit. So there was a lot of hardware software integration we did there around manageability and serviceability in particular.

Yeah, so I think to really start to get at Dogpatch, I actually had to rewind to actually back to Fishworks and AK, which was the appliance kit. So there was a lot of hardware software integration we did there around manageability and serviceability in particular.

And if you're ever fortunate enough to use one of those, there was a lot of things that did around just like, hey, detecting drive failure, indicating that blinking an LED and even being able to blink the LED tell you where it was, already started re-silvering, swapped in spares, sent out emails, did contacted support potentially to get replacement parts shipped, et cetera.

And if you're ever fortunate enough to use one of those, there was a lot of things that did around just like, hey, detecting drive failure, indicating that blinking an LED and even being able to blink the LED tell you where it was, already started re-silvering, swapped in spares, sent out emails, did contacted support potentially to get replacement parts shipped, et cetera.

And that was kind of at a single box level. And that was really 2007, 2008. Then you kind of fast forward, and it's even 2013, 2014, and the ability to kind of deal with that data center management at scale, kind of getting to that warehouse-style computing, is really limited unless you're one of the really big players. You're making an LED blink reliably. Surprisingly challenging.

And that was kind of at a single box level. And that was really 2007, 2008. Then you kind of fast forward, and it's even 2013, 2014, and the ability to kind of deal with that data center management at scale, kind of getting to that warehouse-style computing, is really limited unless you're one of the really big players. You're making an LED blink reliably. Surprisingly challenging.

Actually, you didn't... Honestly, in half the times, even after you figured it out, actually, you've learned that the server was built incorrectly. And a bunch of things to drive, you know, to the basically SAS expander or maybe the drive. It's like the drive backplane cables were swapped. So what you thought was drive zero was drive eight.

Actually, you didn't... Honestly, in half the times, even after you figured it out, actually, you've learned that the server was built incorrectly. And a bunch of things to drive, you know, to the basically SAS expander or maybe the drive. It's like the drive backplane cables were swapped. So what you thought was drive zero was drive eight.

The wrong LED.

The wrong LED.

Did that help? Exactly. But also all of this had to be done very manually. And, you know, the joint operations team put a lot of work into dealing with and managing that and dealing with the kind of

Did that help? Exactly. But also all of this had to be done very manually. And, you know, the joint operations team put a lot of work into dealing with and managing that and dealing with the kind of

lack of features but um you know the serviceability and manageability story which you know worked good at you know the one to two system or if you had multiple systems you know at fishworks we really wanted to bring uh together um and you actually go see if i actually have this deck still somewhere um yeah the dog patch deck we've got the dot yeah yeah yeah it's a it's remind myself what else is what else was actually in there but

lack of features but um you know the serviceability and manageability story which you know worked good at you know the one to two system or if you had multiple systems you know at fishworks we really wanted to bring uh together um and you actually go see if i actually have this deck still somewhere um yeah the dog patch deck we've got the dot yeah yeah yeah it's a it's remind myself what else is what else was actually in there but