Robert Pape

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2,835 appearances 10 recordings 4 series first heard Mar 2026 last heard 30 Jun

Robert Pape’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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But what I can tell you is that we are debating here, and we haven't decided whether we're going to go into the, it's called Sadr City in Baghdad, the Shia area of Baghdad.
And then I took that little bit of knowledge and I was able to reorganize it to explain to them over two hours that if they would do that, they would probably double the amount of suicide terrorism in Iraq at the time and make everything worse.
And that what they needed to do was not go into Sadr City militarily, needed to keep to their main footprint, which was these more Sunni neighborhoods.
There were seven of them.
So we got into the details here.
Um, and, uh, that if they would do that, uh, with some other, uh, uh, ideas too.
So it wasn't just literally that, um, this would have the best chance of putting the capping.
I called it of the volcano.
Well, I can't tell you, uh, I only go into these things for two hours and then I go and I take all the questions and I go home and then they listen to other people.
Well, they never did go into solder city.
I can't tell you it's because of what I said, but what I can tell you is we did cap that volcano.
And when we then, and this was under Obama in 2010 and 11, when we ignored the problem and allowed the Anbar Awakening, that key force of Sunnis, to be crushed by the Shia Maliki government,
Of course ISIS was going to come back.
And that's why I was right there tracking this thing.
And as soon as ISIS came back, I was right there with the strategy of how do you defeat ISIS.
So my goal here is, Patrick, hasn't always been to just say you're doing something wrong.
It's been to come up with all terms.
That's why when you asked me what would I have told President Trump on February 27th,
actually have an answer and it's not just making it up off the fly.
It's because, uh, but you can't, you can't go to the white house, knock on the door.
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