Robert Pape

I mean, this is not what we would expect out of America presidency.

We're supposed to be the strongest country in the world, the richest country in the world,

We're not supposed to be in this groveling position here.

And this is, I'm sure President Trump, this must be personally driving him, you know, tearing him apart inside here.

But it's also bad.

Any president would be facing this.

Even a new president would not enjoy this by any stretch.

So these are really, I think, what was underneath why Trump forced the issue, why he started.

Notice it was last Thursday that he had the meeting for the new options.

This is after the disrespectful Iranian behavior, disrespectful German behavior.

You're seeing around the world America's position in the world disintegrating.

And that is happening in real time.

On your show, I've said NATO is dead.

We're just writing its obituary.

And we're just adding paragraphs to that obituary week by week.

And look, I'm just calling it as I'm seeing it.

And this helps us to understand why the trap I talk about is so gripping.

I'm not saying Trump prefers war.

That's not what's going on.

He just prefers losing less.