Robert Peston

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The Rest Is Money · 314. Why do the tech bros really want more regulation? · 16 Sep 2026 podcast

I do want to come back to, maybe not now, but we must come back to in the course of this conversation, is whether it is impossible to see an agreement between America and China. voice-verified

Because I'm not 100% sure it is impossible. voice-verified

But before we get to that, there is just one other, however, issue which I think we need to look at, which is, as it happens, a big difference between essentially the approach that the voice-verified

Chinese are taking to AI and the approach that the Americans are taking to AI. voice-verified

Anthropic and OpenAI have what's known as closed systems, right? voice-verified

If you want to use their services, you have to pay them a regular subscription. voice-verified

And if you want the best model, what you have to voice-verified

Pay them is really rather a large amount of money. voice-verified

So if you're a business wanting to use them and you want all the latest ability for their agents to do stuff, you have to pay them an enormous amount of money. voice-verified

That model, that revenue model, lies behind the hundreds of billions of pounds that they are investing in their data centers and all the rest of it. voice-verified

And you know, one of the big questions around uh AI is voice-verified

Not whether it's gonna you know kill us all off, it's whether it's gonna bankrupt those people who are funding them. voice-verified

It's the issue of whether or not they've raised they're raising too much money, this is a bubble, and it's all gonna go horribly wrong. voice-verified

One of the things I'm I'm also interested in in terms of them you know, in a sense, raising this catastrophe risk is up until they raise the catastrophe risk. voice-verified

One of the big voice-verified

Questions about them is how close is China to voice-verified

through its o their open weights models, right? voice-verified

How close are they to producing a product that is as good and not you know not not they're not far off as good as open AI and anthropics. voice-verified

And because it's an open weights model voice-verified

The competitive advantage that these Chinese companies have is that if you're a company, you basically can buy it and then you can do what you like with it, right? voice-verified

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