Lex Fridman Podcast
#374 โ Robert Playter: Boston Dynamics CEO on Humanoid and Legged Robotics
It's not a legged robot.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#374 โ Robert Playter: Boston Dynamics CEO on Humanoid and Legged Robotics
So it was our first... It was actually a bit of a...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#374 โ Robert Playter: Boston Dynamics CEO on Humanoid and Legged Robotics
a commitment from us, a challenge for us, to build a non-balancing robot.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#374 โ Robert Playter: Boston Dynamics CEO on Humanoid and Legged Robotics
But to do... Well, because it wasn't, you know, it wasn't going to have this balance problem.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#374 โ Robert Playter: Boston Dynamics CEO on Humanoid and Legged Robotics
And in fact, the very first version of the logistics robot we built was a balancing robot, and that's called Handle.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#374 โ Robert Playter: Boston Dynamics CEO on Humanoid and Legged Robotics
Oh, it's a beautiful machine.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#374 โ Robert Playter: Boston Dynamics CEO on Humanoid and Legged Robotics
Yeah, so let me, I love talking about the history of how a handle came about.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#374 โ Robert Playter: Boston Dynamics CEO on Humanoid and Legged Robotics
Because it connects all of our robots, actually.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#374 โ Robert Playter: Boston Dynamics CEO on Humanoid and Legged Robotics
I'm gonna start with Atlas.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#374 โ Robert Playter: Boston Dynamics CEO on Humanoid and Legged Robotics
When we had Atlas getting fairly far along, we wanted to understand, I was telling you earlier, the challenge of the human form is that you have this mass up high.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#374 โ Robert Playter: Boston Dynamics CEO on Humanoid and Legged Robotics
And balancing that inertia, that mass up high, is its own unique challenge.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#374 โ Robert Playter: Boston Dynamics CEO on Humanoid and Legged Robotics
And so we started trying to get Atlas to balance standing on one foot, like on a balance beam, using its arms like this.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#374 โ Robert Playter: Boston Dynamics CEO on Humanoid and Legged Robotics
And you can do this, I'm sure.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#374 โ Robert Playter: Boston Dynamics CEO on Humanoid and Legged Robotics
I can do this, right?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#374 โ Robert Playter: Boston Dynamics CEO on Humanoid and Legged Robotics
Like if you're walking a tightrope, how do you do that balance?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#374 โ Robert Playter: Boston Dynamics CEO on Humanoid and Legged Robotics
So that's sort of controlling the inertia, controlling the momentum of the robot.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#374 โ Robert Playter: Boston Dynamics CEO on Humanoid and Legged Robotics
We were starting to figure that out on Atlas.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#374 โ Robert Playter: Boston Dynamics CEO on Humanoid and Legged Robotics
And so our first concept of Handle, which was a robot that was gonna be on two wheels, so it had the balance, but it was gonna have a big long arm so it could reach a box at the top of a truck.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#374 โ Robert Playter: Boston Dynamics CEO on Humanoid and Legged Robotics
And it needed yet another counterbalance, a big tail, to help it balance while it was using its arm.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#374 โ Robert Playter: Boston Dynamics CEO on Humanoid and Legged Robotics
So the reason why this robot sort of looks epic, some people said it looked like an ostrich, or maybe an ostrich moving around, was the wheels, it has legs, so it can extend its legs.