Robert Rubin

is to do exactly what I just said, but there's no political ability to get, not a lot of political focus on it, and really no political ability to get it done.

Yeah, yeah, I get the question.

I don't have much wisdom on that.

I've asked our people that, too.

I mean, clearly, the labor market has softened.

There's no question about that.

I'll give you my personal opinion, whatever it's worth, but it's really mostly based on just what I think about AI.

I think AI has the potential for tremendous positives in terms of productivity, which, by the way, could be partially responsive, albeit not fully responsive, to our fiscal trajectory.

And our fiscal trajectory, on multiple basis, seems to me as a tremendous risk to our economy over time.

So this could be partly responsive to that.

productivity, increased growth, increased revenues, and so forth.

But I think a lot of, yeah, I do think it's going to have very substantial job replacement effects.

A lot of things that are being done now by people are going to be done by AI.

And AI, as you know, what is the human mind?

The human mind is neural systems, right?

What is AI?

AI is neural systems.

And if you take AI and you pursue it, and some of you know much more about this than I do, but you pursue, you build bigger and bigger

data centers and more and more capacity, you create neural systems that are able to do not only the more mundane task, Lisa, but many of the kinds of complex thinking that we're accustomed to associating with human beings.

And that, as you know, is sort of the question of AGI.