Robert

You'll see a picture.

If you haven't seen one of Elliot Rodger, we'll have one up on the screen right now.

But like,

He's not, like, you wouldn't think twice seeing this guy in public.

He looks a little like Clavicular, right?

Like, he's not a bad looking guy.

He's like, but he's certainly not someone you would, like, notice, you know?

Whereas prior to this, if you would ask someone, like...

for like the stereotype of a basement dwelling, you know, incel virgin or whatever, which was an insult people made about people who were too online, right?

I'm not saying that's a good thing to call someone.

There's nothing wrong with being a virgin or whatever.

There's nothing wrong with not having sex.

But those were terms people used.

They were confused by the fact that he seemed to look pretty normal and they didn't expect that.

And I think that's evidence of one of the biggest shortcomings with a lot of early coverage of incels, which is that that coverage did not emphasize enough

This is not a community for guys who just can't get a date and who just aren't very social.

This is a community for men who have constructed an ideology that tells them it is mathematically impossible for them to find love.

And that fact makes some of them homicidal, right?

That is a really key aspect of what's going on here is how delusional it is.

Elliot seems to, as far as we can tell, based on what we know from people who interviews people who knew him and from his own writings, he's had a lot of trouble connecting with people from a young age.