Robin Bailey

Right.

Because there is.

So when you, that is very striking, in fact, and that does come through in the book.

That you have, I think, you've got the energiser bunny as your emotional default setting, which is that you feel the shock but then you get up, you get up and you not only get up but you rise.

Yeah.

So to contextualise what you're talking about, this was your husband, your first husband, Tony, and you'd been together.

Was Finn your eldest 14 at the time?

Yes, yes.

And you had – the marriage had run its course or you had realised for you that you could no longer stay in the marriage.

Yep.

And both of you were very –

outgoing and community-minded people.

Like I love the stories in the book.

You paint a really beautiful picture of who Tony was, a very engaged, like I love the garbage can drinks.

Oh, the willy bin bar.

Yeah, the willy bin bar.

When the bins are out for collection, it started with him and a mate having beers and then the whole sort of streak came.

It's a great idea, unless, of course, your rubbish collection is at, you know, 4am.

Don't do that.

And he was struggling with...