Robin Carhart-Harris

I think there was one

uh negative result trial uh and you know again this would be in a couple dozen or close to that now

And they dosed the individual in an MR scanner and there was no psychological support.

So for me, that's quite telling, very telling.

So very consistent, positive results.

Just to explain why you would expect that.

I mean, an MR scanner in terms of setting is aesthetically pretty awful setting.

I mean, if you're claustrophobic at all, you're going to freak out and it's also loud and

You can't move, in fact, because you can't get data on someone who's moving.

So it's just, it's, I mean, there are a lot of people who are not on drugs who can't get scanned in an MRI machine.

And many people who can only if they take, you know, benzodiazepines to lower their anxiety, you know.

Yeah.

And then that's a bit confound, of course, isn't it?

Yeah.

So yeah, it's not the best set and setting.

It can be tolerated.

I've done a lot of work putting people in scanners and giving them high doses of psychedelics, but there's a way to do it.

And, you know, it's not an optimal set and setting.

It's not an optimal context.

It's not obviously therapeutically supportive.