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Robin Dunbar

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The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

It exploits a lot of the same machinery, if you like, so causal reasoning and stuff.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

But the key to that seems to be that it involves what's become known as mentalising.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

It's the capacity to understand what's going on in somebody else's mind, essentially, or at least to be able to predict how they're going to behave in the future and to manage and manipulate that to some extent.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

And that is...

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

extremely expensive in terms of neural processing time.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

And that's why you end up having to have this huge bit of the brain essentially dedicated to...

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

managing social relationships.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

A bit of a sniff to figure out... And that's the difference between herding species, like feral goats, who don't have stable relationships and don't have stable groups, because there's no point in learning...

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

the ins and outs and foibles of a particular individual, because you may never see them again.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

All you need to know is, are they a bigger thug than you?

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

Are they prettier than you?

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

Have they got a nice red nose?

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

Or whatever the cues are.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

If you're in a stable group, you've got to do much more machinating, really, in order to keep everybody in the same place.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

Because the problem is, as I'm sure you all know, if you're too grumpy...

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

with your friends when you go out, they'll abandon you.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

So if you start being too aggressive within the group, you destroy the group.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

It's the skills of diplomacy.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

And the ones that have stable groups, stable monogamous groups as a pair, invariably have bigger brains than the ones that have a pair mating arrangement but don't live together.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

I mean, the answer is yes, if you look at it.