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Robin Ferner

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

Months or years, I think, rather than a definite answer within weeks, I'm sad to say.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

Well, there are two different uses for chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

In India, the government has proposed that those who are at high risk of getting COVID-19, for example, healthcare workers, might take chloroquine once a week.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

in the hope of preventing the virus from taking hold.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

Well, that's very similar to the dosing that's used to prevent malaria or was used to prevent malaria.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

And the risks of that are quite well known.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

At the other extreme, we know that very large overdoses of chloroquine are extremely toxic.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

So when patients take 20 tablets, many unfortunately die.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

In between, there is the acute treatment that's been suggested, particularly in France,

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

for COVID-19, which involves the administration of 6 grams of chloroquine over 10 days, and that's a fair amount, and it's likely to cause much more in the way of adverse effects than the rather small once-weekly dose that's taken to try to prevent the infection.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

So the most common adverse effect of chloroquine and of hydroxychloroquine is gastrointestinal upset, diarrhea and vomiting, if you like, or at any rate, nausea.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

But on top of that, from time to time, there are cases of bone marrow failure.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

Higher doses cause people to become disoriented and even psychotic.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

And a particular worry in this context is that in combination with other drugs, chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine can alter the way in which the heart rhythm works.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

and produce what, in technical terms, is called QT prolongation.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

I looked at the historical context, so people had high hopes for chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine in a whole series of virus infections.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

By way of example, there was a large trial to see whether it prevented influenza in over 1,500 people, and there's no evidence that it does.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

It seems to have slight effects in HIV, but of course there are much better drugs.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

And in some infections, it almost certainly makes things worse.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - hydroxy/chloroquinine, prognostic models and facemaskss

So the historical perspective doesn't make me optimistic, as there are drugs that interfere with the replication of viruses that depend on RNA, like SARS-CoV-2.