Rod Blagojevich

That's the one you'd sell it to. But if I said that, that would be a crime. But there was none of that. They covered that up. So they go to court a couple of days after I'm arrested and they go before their judge and they get a sealed order. They put a gag on it. So the tapes cannot be played publicly in court and I can't talk about what's on those tapes.

Unless it comes from my independent recollection. I can't release them.

Unless it comes from my independent recollection. I can't release them.

Unless it comes from my independent recollection. I can't release them.

I can quote what I remember personally, and I remember some of it, of course.

I can quote what I remember personally, and I remember some of it, of course.

I can quote what I remember personally, and I remember some of it, of course.

And I was doing it not on podcasts, but I was doing it on the Today Show, Good Morning America, CBS Morning. Nightline, Dateline, all the shows.

And I was doing it not on podcasts, but I was doing it on the Today Show, Good Morning America, CBS Morning. Nightline, Dateline, all the shows.

And I was doing it not on podcasts, but I was doing it on the Today Show, Good Morning America, CBS Morning. Nightline, Dateline, all the shows.

Well said. Yes, exactly right.

Well said. Yes, exactly right.

Well said. Yes, exactly right.

She became like a top advisor for Obama in the White House. Now, there's a school of thought. There's a theory that's plausible. Obama publicly said he did not send this labor guy to me. But Balanoff, the emissary, in two trials testified twice under oath that Obama called him. Obama then was interviewed by the FBI the day or two after I was arrested.

She became like a top advisor for Obama in the White House. Now, there's a school of thought. There's a theory that's plausible. Obama publicly said he did not send this labor guy to me. But Balanoff, the emissary, in two trials testified twice under oath that Obama called him. Obama then was interviewed by the FBI the day or two after I was arrested.

She became like a top advisor for Obama in the White House. Now, there's a school of thought. There's a theory that's plausible. Obama publicly said he did not send this labor guy to me. But Balanoff, the emissary, in two trials testified twice under oath that Obama called him. Obama then was interviewed by the FBI the day or two after I was arrested.

And if you lie to the FBI, they call them 302s, these interviews. It's a crime. But I've learned that the FBI is really the FBI. And you sit down like I did stupidly. You talk to these people. They say you lied and you say they lied. Who are you going to believe if you're a jury, right? It's a big mistake to ever trust them, to be honest.

And if you lie to the FBI, they call them 302s, these interviews. It's a crime. But I've learned that the FBI is really the FBI. And you sit down like I did stupidly. You talk to these people. They say you lied and you say they lied. Who are you going to believe if you're a jury, right? It's a big mistake to ever trust them, to be honest.

And if you lie to the FBI, they call them 302s, these interviews. It's a crime. But I've learned that the FBI is really the FBI. And you sit down like I did stupidly. You talk to these people. They say you lied and you say they lied. Who are you going to believe if you're a jury, right? It's a big mistake to ever trust them, to be honest.

So my advice to anybody out there who's getting chased by the FBI, don't talk to them. And I thought they were the good guys. So I sat down and talked to them. Well, Obama talked to them. And every defendant is entitled to relevant evidence that could help him or her defend themselves against criminal prosecution. But to this day, they would never give us Obama's 302s.