Rod Blagojevich
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And it was explained to me by the authorities there that prison is a very segregated place, that the unwritten policy in order to keep order is that people need to be part of their own cars. They called it โ the euphemism for gangs in prison is cars. What car do you ride in? and that they thought that for my own safety, that number one, I shouldn't be walking around with black guys.
I need to be part of a car and I need to join the white car and go see these two guys, Cole and Sadness. Sadness. His name was, I thought it was Sadness too. Exactly. Because I'm looking around, who's Sadness? I'm looking for Sadness, right? His name was Sandness and Cole was the leader. I think he was from Texas. And they told me that I should go see them.
I need to be part of a car and I need to join the white car and go see these two guys, Cole and Sadness. Sadness. His name was, I thought it was Sadness too. Exactly. Because I'm looking around, who's Sadness? I'm looking for Sadness, right? His name was Sandness and Cole was the leader. I think he was from Texas. And they told me that I should go see them.
I need to be part of a car and I need to join the white car and go see these two guys, Cole and Sadness. Sadness. His name was, I thought it was Sadness too. Exactly. Because I'm looking around, who's Sadness? I'm looking for Sadness, right? His name was Sandness and Cole was the leader. I think he was from Texas. And they told me that I should go see them.
And so out of respect for the police officers, the correctional officers, I said, okay, I'll go see them. But I made it clear to them, listen, I don't give a fuck. Because they told me, look, when you get into a conflict with somebody, and it's inevitable, because you're in prison with a bunch of guys for a long time, there's going to be all kinds of disputes.
And so out of respect for the police officers, the correctional officers, I said, okay, I'll go see them. But I made it clear to them, listen, I don't give a fuck. Because they told me, look, when you get into a conflict with somebody, and it's inevitable, because you're in prison with a bunch of guys for a long time, there's going to be all kinds of disputes.
And so out of respect for the police officers, the correctional officers, I said, okay, I'll go see them. But I made it clear to them, listen, I don't give a fuck. Because they told me, look, when you get into a conflict with somebody, and it's inevitable, because you're in prison with a bunch of guys for a long time, there's going to be all kinds of disputes.
You want the window open, the other guy wants it closed. You didn't put the weight back in the weight room like he would have wanted. There's all kinds of shit that's going to happen, conflicts that develop between guys living close like that. The way we keep order is we keep the races and the different ethnic groups separated. They all become part of their individual cars.
You want the window open, the other guy wants it closed. You didn't put the weight back in the weight room like he would have wanted. There's all kinds of shit that's going to happen, conflicts that develop between guys living close like that. The way we keep order is we keep the races and the different ethnic groups separated. They all become part of their individual cars.
You want the window open, the other guy wants it closed. You didn't put the weight back in the weight room like he would have wanted. There's all kinds of shit that's going to happen, conflicts that develop between guys living close like that. The way we keep order is we keep the races and the different ethnic groups separated. They all become part of their individual cars.
You sit with them in a commissary. I mean, at the cafeteria, they call it the chow hall. You work out with them. You walk the track with them. You're polite to the other groups, but you don't really get friendly with them. Because if you have a conflict with somebody, your car will protect you, especially if it becomes a conflict with somebody from another race or another group of people.
You sit with them in a commissary. I mean, at the cafeteria, they call it the chow hall. You work out with them. You walk the track with them. You're polite to the other groups, but you don't really get friendly with them. Because if you have a conflict with somebody, your car will protect you, especially if it becomes a conflict with somebody from another race or another group of people.
You sit with them in a commissary. I mean, at the cafeteria, they call it the chow hall. You work out with them. You walk the track with them. You're polite to the other groups, but you don't really get friendly with them. Because if you have a conflict with somebody, your car will protect you, especially if it becomes a conflict with somebody from another race or another group of people.
In the prison I was in, there were a lot of black guys, a lot of Latinos, a lot of guys from Mexico, seen a lot of drug cartel people, a lot of Native Americans, there were Pacific Islanders, and of course white guys, and sex offenders, they were their own group. And so they all pretty much rode in their own cars, their separate cars. But I told them, look, I don't fear anybody.
In the prison I was in, there were a lot of black guys, a lot of Latinos, a lot of guys from Mexico, seen a lot of drug cartel people, a lot of Native Americans, there were Pacific Islanders, and of course white guys, and sex offenders, they were their own group. And so they all pretty much rode in their own cars, their separate cars. But I told them, look, I don't fear anybody.
In the prison I was in, there were a lot of black guys, a lot of Latinos, a lot of guys from Mexico, seen a lot of drug cartel people, a lot of Native Americans, there were Pacific Islanders, and of course white guys, and sex offenders, they were their own group. And so they all pretty much rode in their own cars, their separate cars. But I told them, look, I don't fear anybody.
If somebody wants to fucking kill me here, in some ways they're putting me out of my misery. I'm not going to be doing some kind of thing like that. It's racist. I'm not doing that. Whoever's nice to me, I'm going to be nice to them. And I'll respect your rules. I won't sit with the black guys or with any Latino guys. I'll sit with the white guys.
If somebody wants to fucking kill me here, in some ways they're putting me out of my misery. I'm not going to be doing some kind of thing like that. It's racist. I'm not doing that. Whoever's nice to me, I'm going to be nice to them. And I'll respect your rules. I won't sit with the black guys or with any Latino guys. I'll sit with the white guys.
If somebody wants to fucking kill me here, in some ways they're putting me out of my misery. I'm not going to be doing some kind of thing like that. It's racist. I'm not doing that. Whoever's nice to me, I'm going to be nice to them. And I'll respect your rules. I won't sit with the black guys or with any Latino guys. I'll sit with the white guys.
But I'm not going to unless you're ordering me to tell me and telling me I can't walk with those guys or talk to these guys. I'm going to keep doing it. And they say, well, we can't do that because this is an unwritten way that we operate and keep order in prison. And then they told me something which I respected. They said, look, you're not in the real world here anymore.