Rod Blagojevich

The Supreme Court and the courts, yes. Checks and balances. Founding fathers had the wisdom to create a system like that because they know the corruptibility of man. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. So they divided power. That's the beauty and genius of what they did in this country.

The Supreme Court and the courts, yes. Checks and balances. Founding fathers had the wisdom to create a system like that because they know the corruptibility of man. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. So they divided power. That's the beauty and genius of what they did in this country.

They did not foresee coming out of the executive branch would be this tumor, this cancer that really started picking up steam in the 1920s, federal law enforcement, and that it would grow and that the tactics and the methods they used to go after Al Capone or later on, you know, Carlos Escobar and El Chapo and people like that, that they would actually use against governors and presidents.

They did not foresee coming out of the executive branch would be this tumor, this cancer that really started picking up steam in the 1920s, federal law enforcement, and that it would grow and that the tactics and the methods they used to go after Al Capone or later on, you know, Carlos Escobar and El Chapo and people like that, that they would actually use against governors and presidents.

They did not foresee coming out of the executive branch would be this tumor, this cancer that really started picking up steam in the 1920s, federal law enforcement, and that it would grow and that the tactics and the methods they used to go after Al Capone or later on, you know, Carlos Escobar and El Chapo and people like that, that they would actually use against governors and presidents.

They didn't foresee that. Problem is, as a practical matter, because they have such power, the politicians are scared shitless of them. They don't want to stand up to them because they're afraid these people will trump up shit against them and just make shit up or get something they might have done and made it bigger.

They didn't foresee that. Problem is, as a practical matter, because they have such power, the politicians are scared shitless of them. They don't want to stand up to them because they're afraid these people will trump up shit against them and just make shit up or get something they might have done and made it bigger.

They didn't foresee that. Problem is, as a practical matter, because they have such power, the politicians are scared shitless of them. They don't want to stand up to them because they're afraid these people will trump up shit against them and just make shit up or get something they might have done and made it bigger.

Correct. And then when you get, you're the one on the wrong end of it, all your friends in politics, they run for the hills, they abandon you. And then all of a sudden, they're kissing your ass the day before you're arrested, and the next day they're maligning the shit out of you. Sounds like Hollywood. Is that right?

Correct. And then when you get, you're the one on the wrong end of it, all your friends in politics, they run for the hills, they abandon you. And then all of a sudden, they're kissing your ass the day before you're arrested, and the next day they're maligning the shit out of you. Sounds like Hollywood. Is that right?

Correct. And then when you get, you're the one on the wrong end of it, all your friends in politics, they run for the hills, they abandon you. And then all of a sudden, they're kissing your ass the day before you're arrested, and the next day they're maligning the shit out of you. Sounds like Hollywood. Is that right?

Yeah, you're right. Yeah.

Yeah, you're right. Yeah.

Yeah, you're right. Yeah.

Right.

Right.

Right.

Yeah. It's like your chief of staff and your governor's lawyer and all your friends, people that worked with you and got rich on you. Their choice is, I have to look at my little boy who's three years old and his future, or do I try to defend my boss? Right. Of course. And they make the decision, understandably, for their families.

Yeah. It's like your chief of staff and your governor's lawyer and all your friends, people that worked with you and got rich on you. Their choice is, I have to look at my little boy who's three years old and his future, or do I try to defend my boss? Right. Of course. And they make the decision, understandably, for their families.

Yeah. It's like your chief of staff and your governor's lawyer and all your friends, people that worked with you and got rich on you. Their choice is, I have to look at my little boy who's three years old and his future, or do I try to defend my boss? Right. Of course. And they make the decision, understandably, for their families.