Rodney Benson

So it depends on how it's structured.

And secondly, capture can be presented as kind of a binary, like either you're captured or you're not, right?

But instead, it's a process, and we're seeing that in the U.S.

And finally, capture doesn't really make clear that there's different kinds of capture, right?

So you might be captured in one way, politically, let's say, in the political line or in terms of the economic interest you're promoting, but you're still doing some good reporting on other topics.

So

So with those caveats, I think, you know, yes, we're absolutely seeing this kind of process happening in the U.S.

right now.

Well, you had CBS in the process through being sold to Paramount Skydance.

It was a standard merger, but then you had a lot of things going on in the background that said, is this going to get approved or not?

by the regulators.

So you've got a situation with the Trump administration where the regulatory process has been highly politicized.

A lot of this was reported in the background that various kinds of promises were being made that they're going to turn CBS around, make it more sympathetic to the Trump administration.

But then they concretely did, took some steps.

They appointed an ombudsman to review the editorial content to make sure it wasn't, you know, biased, left-wing biased.

And that person was someone with strong Republican Party ties.

It wasn't an independent journalist.

And they've also brought in a new editor in chief, Barry Weiss, who was an opinion journalist, not a reporter, not exactly MAGA, but let's say MAGA adjacent interviews.

And we've also seen some incidents in some of their coverage, some stories held.

And also right at the time of that sale, there was a settlement of a lawsuit that was kind of taken as a quid pro quo for that article.