Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

Where it is that idea of you look at all the independent studios who do make it. There are plenty that fail. I think that overextend themselves, that mortgage the house, and they shouldn't have done that. But the ones who do make their game and... We talk about it, we enjoy it, it gets a 7.5 or whatever, and guess what? Years later, they make another game.

Where it is that idea of you look at all the independent studios who do make it. There are plenty that fail. I think that overextend themselves, that mortgage the house, and they shouldn't have done that. But the ones who do make their game and... We talk about it, we enjoy it, it gets a 7.5 or whatever, and guess what? Years later, they make another game.

They're doing it because they didn't go crazy. They turned that game in two years. They didn't leave their jobs until they were satisfied and ready. There's a way to do this and be healthy, just not be fucking billionaires. I don't know. Maybe Matt will say it's all wrong and we're fucked.

They're doing it because they didn't go crazy. They turned that game in two years. They didn't leave their jobs until they were satisfied and ready. There's a way to do this and be healthy, just not be fucking billionaires. I don't know. Maybe Matt will say it's all wrong and we're fucked.

Okay, fine. Fair enough. Right now, a couple of super chats I'd like to get in. We are long. This has been a great conversation. Del Walker, of course.

Okay, fine. Fair enough. Right now, a couple of super chats I'd like to get in. We are long. This has been a great conversation. Del Walker, of course.

Friend of the show. Video game developer. Says, asking Monolith to make a new IP is brave. What single player new IP game has sold well in the last decade that isn't from Sony? Before even I start... You fucked me up because I was going to say Returnal. Before I even dive into the thing, again, I think this just goes back to... And this is the broken math of WB of... Okay, make a smaller game.

Friend of the show. Video game developer. Says, asking Monolith to make a new IP is brave. What single player new IP game has sold well in the last decade that isn't from Sony? Before even I start... You fucked me up because I was going to say Returnal. Before I even dive into the thing, again, I think this just goes back to... And this is the broken math of WB of... Okay, make a smaller game.

Turn a faster game. Make a Nemesis game that isn't 40 hours long. Make one that is 10 hours long and telling a great story. And I know that all sounds quote-unquote easy. I get it. And again, that doesn't work for WB. And the more money they sink into these failed projects that they then cancel, the more they look at the next game as like, this game has to fucking hit. This game has to be big.

Turn a faster game. Make a Nemesis game that isn't 40 hours long. Make one that is 10 hours long and telling a great story. And I know that all sounds quote-unquote easy. I get it. And again, that doesn't work for WB. And the more money they sink into these failed projects that they then cancel, the more they look at the next game as like, this game has to fucking hit. This game has to be big.

So yeah, pick an IP. I picked Wonder Woman. Okay. Let's go. I'm sure they wonder when movies will be great. Those will go on forever. Clearly, they're dedicated to that universe. Ah, fuck, they got rid of that universe.

So yeah, pick an IP. I picked Wonder Woman. Okay. Let's go. I'm sure they wonder when movies will be great. Those will go on forever. Clearly, they're dedicated to that universe. Ah, fuck, they got rid of that universe.

Deshawn says, a Hades-style Wonder Woman game would have been incredible. Incredibly derivative, but I would have enjoyed it. I would have loved that, yeah. If you were to give that to Supergiant. I mean, Supergiant's going to be like, no. Why don't we just put a Wonder Woman skin in Hades? That's the game we already made.

Deshawn says, a Hades-style Wonder Woman game would have been incredible. Incredibly derivative, but I would have enjoyed it. I would have loved that, yeah. If you were to give that to Supergiant. I mean, Supergiant's going to be like, no. Why don't we just put a Wonder Woman skin in Hades? That's the game we already made.

Volk Dasher says, I understand the disappointment, but we go a bit too hard at the teams trying to jump on live service. They had to at least try. The real anger should be directed at the failure to course correct. I like to think that we... don't lash out at the teams as much as the executives saying I wanted the fortnight.

Volk Dasher says, I understand the disappointment, but we go a bit too hard at the teams trying to jump on live service. They had to at least try. The real anger should be directed at the failure to course correct. I like to think that we... don't lash out at the teams as much as the executives saying I wanted the fortnight.

But yeah, I don't blame teams for doing what their bosses are telling them to do. Yeah. I just think it's a bad bosses. And that's why I need to go to lunch with James gun. And he'll say, Greg, I really have nothing to do with the, I have no idea what you're talking about. You're going to, you're going to James. And that's where it's going to go on to. Uh, and then geez, man, Tyler comes back in.

But yeah, I don't blame teams for doing what their bosses are telling them to do. Yeah. I just think it's a bad bosses. And that's why I need to go to lunch with James gun. And he'll say, Greg, I really have nothing to do with the, I have no idea what you're talking about. You're going to, you're going to James. And that's where it's going to go on to. Uh, and then geez, man, Tyler comes back in.

Sure.

Sure.