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Roger Karma

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162 total appearances

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Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

So on the whole, I actually don't think there's a lot of evidence for this broader nativist claim about this program.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

I think what's important to remember here is that getting one of these H-1B visas is actually pretty difficult. And so the idea that a company is going to be able to systematically bring in foreign workers to replace their native ones using this program, it's just really hard to do because there's such a low chance they're even going to get those workers in the first place.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

I think what's important to remember here is that getting one of these H-1B visas is actually pretty difficult. And so the idea that a company is going to be able to systematically bring in foreign workers to replace their native ones using this program, it's just really hard to do because there's such a low chance they're even going to get those workers in the first place.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

I think what's important to remember here is that getting one of these H-1B visas is actually pretty difficult. And so the idea that a company is going to be able to systematically bring in foreign workers to replace their native ones using this program, it's just really hard to do because there's such a low chance they're even going to get those workers in the first place.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

And so a lot of times when companies use this program, what they're doing is they're looking for a very important skill set. So let's use semiconductors as an example. This is an industry, when it comes to the manufacturing of semiconductors, that US companies haven't really done for a while.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

And so a lot of times when companies use this program, what they're doing is they're looking for a very important skill set. So let's use semiconductors as an example. This is an industry, when it comes to the manufacturing of semiconductors, that US companies haven't really done for a while.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

And so a lot of times when companies use this program, what they're doing is they're looking for a very important skill set. So let's use semiconductors as an example. This is an industry, when it comes to the manufacturing of semiconductors, that US companies haven't really done for a while.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

A lot of the most advanced chips are made in places like Taiwan, and so a lot of the best talent is abroad. And so if you're a US semiconductor manufacturer, The industry in the US estimates that even if we had the best job training programs possible, that would only fill about 50 percent of the high skill demand for the labor force in this field.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

A lot of the most advanced chips are made in places like Taiwan, and so a lot of the best talent is abroad. And so if you're a US semiconductor manufacturer, The industry in the US estimates that even if we had the best job training programs possible, that would only fill about 50 percent of the high skill demand for the labor force in this field.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

A lot of the most advanced chips are made in places like Taiwan, and so a lot of the best talent is abroad. And so if you're a US semiconductor manufacturer, The industry in the US estimates that even if we had the best job training programs possible, that would only fill about 50 percent of the high skill demand for the labor force in this field.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

So you need to bring in folks who have this highly specialized knowledge, probably because they've worked in other countries, But then what that allows you to do, once you have a subset of foreign born workers who can do this sort of specialized manufacturing, what you then have is then you have people to come in and support around them.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

So you need to bring in folks who have this highly specialized knowledge, probably because they've worked in other countries, But then what that allows you to do, once you have a subset of foreign born workers who can do this sort of specialized manufacturing, what you then have is then you have people to come in and support around them.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

So you need to bring in folks who have this highly specialized knowledge, probably because they've worked in other countries, But then what that allows you to do, once you have a subset of foreign born workers who can do this sort of specialized manufacturing, what you then have is then you have people to come in and support around them.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

And then because a company has that need met, they're able to then hire a bunch of other workers to fill other needs that they have, but they don't require that same kind of specialized knowledge. And on the other flip side is that we actually have some studies that look at what happens to the companies that don't get H-1B visas? What happens to those companies? Do they hire more native workers?

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

And then because a company has that need met, they're able to then hire a bunch of other workers to fill other needs that they have, but they don't require that same kind of specialized knowledge. And on the other flip side is that we actually have some studies that look at what happens to the companies that don't get H-1B visas? What happens to those companies? Do they hire more native workers?

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

And then because a company has that need met, they're able to then hire a bunch of other workers to fill other needs that they have, but they don't require that same kind of specialized knowledge. And on the other flip side is that we actually have some studies that look at what happens to the companies that don't get H-1B visas? What happens to those companies? Do they hire more native workers?

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

Do they invest in more job training? And it turns out that they don't. In fact, they end up often just either A, producing less or growing less quickly, or B, and this is a finding of a lot of the recent literature, they end up outsourcing the jobs instead.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

Do they invest in more job training? And it turns out that they don't. In fact, they end up often just either A, producing less or growing less quickly, or B, and this is a finding of a lot of the recent literature, they end up outsourcing the jobs instead.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

Do they invest in more job training? And it turns out that they don't. In fact, they end up often just either A, producing less or growing less quickly, or B, and this is a finding of a lot of the recent literature, they end up outsourcing the jobs instead.

Radio Atlantic
Trump’s Anti-Immigrant Coalition Starts to Fracture

And so instead of bringing in this new worker and then hiring more native workers around them, they just say, well, look, we have an office in China or we have an office in Singapore or we have an office in Hong Kong or India. Let's just hire more there because we're not going to be able to get the talent that we need here.