Roger Pulvers

And he wrote a play called The Metaphysics of the Two-Headed Calf, set in Australia.

And Act One, however, is set in New Guinea, Port Moresby.

And I translated that play.

And in fact, I directed it at the Pram Factory.

I don't know, listeners of an older vintage would remember.

Particularly those in Melbourne, yes, the APG, the Pram Factory.

So that was the first production of a Vitekiewicz play in Australia.

So there's Polish drama, but there's also Polish novels that I read, but some of them aren't translated, unfortunately, and Polish literature is just so amazing, so rich.

It's the biggest one.

It's the biggest one?

Oh, yeah.

Well, more than 50 years in Japan.

But I didn't learn Japanese.

I was in Poland.

And if anybody's interested, I published some months ago an autobiography called The Unmaking of an American about becoming an Australian, giving up American citizenship.

And in that, I describe this spy scandal that I was innocently involved in when I was in Poland.

So I thought, well, I'll never be able to go back to Poland again.

But I thought, what am I going to do?

And I went back to the United States in May 1967.

And I had lost my student deferment.