Roger Stone
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first heard Mar 2025
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Farrelly, it's great to be with you. Before we start, once again, I want to commend you and Turning Point USA for the crucial role you played in the greatest comeback in American political history, the smashing victory of President Donald Trump.
I think the one thing we learned is that the Central Intelligence Agency has dissembled in the past about their knowledge of Lee Harvey Oswald, at least his existence. We've learned that they knew he was not a good shot. I don't believe that he is the shooter from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository building.
But again, these documents have been in government hands for 62 plus years. In other words, plenty of time to sanitize them. A number of congressmen like Tim Bursch from Tennessee suggested early on that the president broadened his disclosure order to include every agency, not narrow it to the Kennedy assassination documents archive that is controlled by the Central Intelligence Agency.
So we don't know if what we have seen is complete, but what we do know is what we've seen so far is is inconclusive other than to say it does confirm that the Central Intelligence Agency had far earlier knowledge of Oswald and the documents we've seen so far tend to seek to reinforce Oswald's What I still believe is a false narrative that Oswald shot Kennedy.
If Lee Harvey Oswald shot John Kennedy and he used a $26 World War II vintage gun, Italian Army carbine. Why does he have no powder burns on his chest or his arms or his hands, according to the test by the Dallas Police Department?
Other than to say that you can find a grok analysis of it, I think the answer is no. Also, The search capability is limited. So, in other words, if you search by certain terms, it won't work. I don't know a single person who has read all 80,000 documents. In fact, all 80,000 documents haven't even yet been uploaded. It was interesting.
That late in the day, the day of disclosure, the day these were released, there were reports that the Department of Justice was going to delay the release based on purposes of national security. And then I was glad to see that Tulsi Gabbard, keeping the president's promise, announced when the documents could be seen both online and you can go to the National Archives and see them in person.
You can make an appointment, I believe, but for any American to see. So the president has kept his promise. But what we don't know is. is whether what is going to be released ultimately, all 80,000, is in fact complete. I don't think any conclusion can be drawn based on what we have seen other than the agency's knowledge regarding Oswald starts far earlier than they say. Remember, Charlie, that
The law mandating the release of these documents was passed in 1994. The date set was 2017. At that time, President Trump released about 80 percent of the documents. And we learned of some amazing things there. For example. We had the 1099 from the IRS to Lee Harvey Oswald for his time working for the FBI as an informant.
For example, we had a memo from J. Edgar Hoover, then the head of the FBI, to President Lyndon Johnson saying, saying that the KGB, the Russian intelligence agency, had conducted their own independent investigation into Kennedy's assassination. And they had concluded, as I did in my 2013 book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ. that Johnson was complicit in Kennedy's assassination.
So President Trump already released a number of really compelling and interesting documents way back in 2017. He didn't release all of them that time because Mike Pompeo, the CIA director, asked that 20% of the documents be held back. Those are the documents that we are seeing now and which we will see more of shortly.
That is correct. So all 80,000 are not out there. Therefore, it's impossible to make a total judgment. There's a number of questions, and I've been posting them, that just remain unanswered. And it doesn't appear that we're going to get answers out of these documents.
No, because I think actually the documentation of that is already established. For example, On the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository building, we find the fingerprints of a man named Malcolm Mack Wallace. They're on both the window encasement and they're on the cardboard boxes that form the crow's nest from which the shooter allegedly shot.
We know that they are Wallace's fingerprints. because Wallace was arrested for first-degree murder and tried and convicted in 1951. He shot and killed a man named John Douglas Kinzer, who was blackmailing Lyndon Johnson. He was also an employee of the U.S. Agriculture Department in a patronage job arranged for him by, well, Senator Lyndon Johnson.
Uh, we also know that six people saw a man in the window of the Texas school book depository building who met the physical description of Wallace, middle-aged, uh, heavy set, balding with glasses. Six different witnesses see a man who meets that description, not the description of Lee Harvey Oswald. And then, as you may know, just weeks ago, Alex Jones released an audio tape
that came from the grandson of Billy Sol Estes. Billy Sol Estes was a flamboyant Texas Wheeler dealer. There's Malcolm Wallace, who was a crony of Johnson's, went to prison for corruption, But the grandson released an audio tape that is a conversation between Billy Solestis and Cliff Carter.
Cliff Carter was the chief political operative for Lyndon Johnson, executive director of the Democrat National Committee in the 60s, in which they openly discussed the fact that Johnson had hired Wallace to shoot President John Kennedy. So it is my assertion that the Johnson portion of this is pretty well proven.
As you know, Charlie, the motivation for me to write my book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, which, by the way, nothing we've seen so far distracts from or contradicts the conclusion that the CIA is among those involved in the murder of Kennedy. But I was working for former President Richard Nixon in his post-presidential years.
I've been brought in to work on his schedule and do occasional political chores for him. And he was, as you know, liked a good martini. He was enormously prospective and not very retrospective.
In other words, it was very hard to get him to talk about the past, about his relationship and friendship with John Kennedy or Dwight Eisenhower or Nikita Khrushchev or any of the high points and low points of his career. But after a couple of cocktails, he would open up a bit. And it was on one of those occasions that I said, Mr. President, can I ask you a question? He said, sure.
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