Roisin Ingle

But just before that, you kind of you do mention in the book as well that you used to be kind of quite idealistic about journalism and how it can change the world.

And you've kind of lost that sense.

And I think with the book and your last book as well, which you should mention, is called My Fourth Time We Drowned.

What your work does, I think, is, again, humanise the stories.

And in a way, sometimes we can feel a bit disconnected.

We can feel like, oh, it's happening, like you said, over there.

We don't care.

But is that important to you?

Is that a motivation for writing these stories that people can kind of find a way in to connect?

Well, you opened the book with Ukraine, December 2023, and you're looking at sort of couples who have been ripped apart by the war.

So tell us about some of those relationships.

And obviously, I think people mightn't have realised how long it would go on.

It's still ongoing.

And we've a lot of Ukrainians here.

But you met couples who are kind of their lives are very much defined by the war and their relationships.

Yeah.

So it's really interesting.

I love the idea of the love train.

It's those kind of little details that, you know, people can connect with as well.

Talk to me about some of the stories that stood out about women.