Roland Busch

So another one is automation technology, as talked about.

Is it either for discrete process manufacturing?

We also go for software-defined automation, which is kind of a disruption.

And in anything, we are the largest automation company.

We are automating grids, we are automating buildings, we are automating signaling systems, we are automating trains, we are automating manufacturing.

So the underlying technology...

Is that what the value is?

Now, we are bringing the technology to different verticals, so markets.

Is it the industrial markets, food and beverage, chemicals, automotive, machine builders, utilities, mobility operators, and the like.

And then at this point, the domain know-how comes into play.

So having technology is one thing, but having the domain know-how to deploy, to talk customers' language is another one.

And on top comes, quite obvious, the whole thing is now supercharged by AI technologies, which we are rolling in as we speak.

We have a long history regarding AI.

Actually, one of the first

supercomputers doing machine learning algorithms was synapse one.

I mean, this is a 90s Siemens had the most powerful one.

This was the grand grandfather of the GPUs today.

So we are and we have since then we are working with artificial intelligence technologies.

But this is now obviously a new level which we want to bring it to.

so the organization obviously we are organizing according to businesses they are reflecting the markets we are acting in but you have to look at from the back the underlying technology including the data which is super relevant